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best 30-06 semi-autos?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by cpileri, Nov 14, 2003.

  1. cpileri

    cpileri Well-Known Member

    I was thinking of buying Skunkabilly's SLB 2000, then I thought: are there other decent semi-auto 30-06's, esp with 10+rd magazines?

    Well, are there?

    What are the 5 or 6 top choices? Price doesn't matter at this stage of list generation.

    A semi-auto BAR sounds nice!

    A chart like this one (below) ought to answer the question:
    Which rifle? Price? reliability? ease of use? ease of repair? magazine capacity?

    thanks all!
  2. eatatjoes

    eatatjoes Well-Known Member

    the FN49 is a very nice rifle. 10 round capacity

    -i'm not too sure about price. i checked gunbroker and they seem to be priced around 800-1000$.
    -very reliable. my father has shot several thousand rounds through his and the only failures he experienced were from crappy ammo. a plus is the adjustable gas system.
    -if you can figure out how to fire and load an SKS you'll be fine.
    -i've never had to fix one before but it is fairly simple to field strip for cleaning.
    -10 rounds. but a 20 round removeable magazine is avaliable for those chambered in .308 and offered by SOG.
  3. Beetle Bailey

    Beetle Bailey Well-Known Member

    I believe it's called a BM 59 and it's an Italian Garand that uses a 20 rd detactable magazine.
  4. eatatjoes

    eatatjoes Well-Known Member

    i was thinking of this:

  5. foghornl

    foghornl Well-Known Member

    Best semi-auto .30-06 I can think of, except only holds 8 rounds...

    US Rifle Cal .30 M1...Popularly known as "The Garand"
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2003
  6. cpileri

    cpileri Well-Known Member


    An SKS in 30-06 would be ideal! Easy to strip, operate, and clean. I never heard of one though.

    I like the self-adjusting gas regulator on the Garand. Makes it simple to use whatecer ammo without worry.

    Too bad those fn 49's are not C&R!

    So far, the 30-06's on the list are:
    1. M1 Garand: $600-1000+, 4+ reliability,
    good: easy to use w/ self-regulating gas device,
    good lots of parts,
    bad 'garand thumb',
    bad 'ping' as it ejects clips,
    need to keep striaght what to grease and what to leave dry,
    8 rd capacity.

    2. SLB 2000: $800-1000+, too new tocomment on reliability (anyone?)
    good: magazine fed,
    bad: limited parts (again since its so new)
    10-rd factory mags


    So far so good! Anyone own a 7400?
  7. BerettaNut92

    BerettaNut92 Well-Known Member

    What I like about the SLB is that it's accurate and reliable in typical boring HK fashion. It was sighted in at the factory and was good to go out of the box. I had to fiddle with my M1A forever just to get it sighted in. I wish the manual told me what screws I had to tighten down to keep all the pieces from slipping off instead of saying my M1A doesn't require anything other than cleaning the action, barrel and occassional cleaning of the gas piston to run. Manuals lie. :rolleyes: (either that or I can't read)

    Downside of the SLB like I said it's a pain to disassemble. Thankfully the manual has pictures.
  8. Kestrel

    Kestrel Well-Known Member

    What is the older HK .30-06 semi auto hunting rifle they made several years ago? Are they reliable? Do they break? I saw one at a shop and started thinking...

  9. BerettaNut92

    BerettaNut92 Well-Known Member

    Haven't had it around long enough for it to break. Only 'issue' is that it stopped going into battery when I didn't tighten some of the screws hard enough; I have a gentle touch and don't like to force things :eek:
  10. Matt G

    Matt G Moderator Emeritus

    I'm seeing mostly military rifles, here. What about commercial rifles, the Remington 7400, offered in '06 both as a carbine (18 1/2" bbl) or as a rifle (22" bbl), and with wood or synthetic furniture? Someone was telling me that someone's offering a 10 rd magazine for it, too. Looks benign, but has some rather impressive ability.

    How about also the Browning BAR commercial hunting rifle?
  11. cpileri

    cpileri Well-Known Member


    I was wondering the exact same things about the same rifles (7400 and BAR)!! But I dont know anyone who owns one.

    Any others out there?

    What about the older remingtons? was it the 740? I dunno.

    How about the sem-auto 1919's? Probably no parts as they are cusom jobs?
  12. Bill Hook

    Bill Hook member

    You can still find them for around $600, sometimes less. It'd have to be pretty minty or a rare variant (like Belgian Congo) to warrant $1000.
  13. BerettaNut92

    BerettaNut92 Well-Known Member

    I was looking at the 7400s and BARs as well but couldn't find 10 round mags which were a requirement.
  14. ChairborneRanger

    ChairborneRanger Well-Known Member

    Browning quality has really deteriorated over the last 5-10 years----I'd stay away from the BAR.
  15. AZ Jeff

    AZ Jeff Well-Known Member

    cpileri wrote:

    So far, the 30-06's on the list are:
    1. M1 Garand: $600-1000+, 4+ reliability,
    good: easy to use w/ self-regulating gas device,
    good lots of parts,
    bad 'garand thumb',
    bad 'ping' as it ejects clips,
    need to keep striaght what to grease and what to leave dry,
    8 rd capacity.
    Your list of issues with the M1 makes it sound like it's a finicky rifle. If that were true, then we should all be speaking German now. :D

    That said, I must respond to some of your "observations" above, and I am coming from the perspective of owning several Garands, and shoot them in all sorts of competitions.

    1. "M1 thumb" is a non-issue for those who practice the technique even slightly. Only the truly inept will regularly get themselves mashed in the action of that rifle. The rifle is NOT the vicious thumb eater that some claim, unless you are totally a klutz.

    2. The "ping" issue is TOTALLY a non-issue, unless you are a mall-ninja. WHO or WHAT that you will shoot at will hear the "ping" of the clip ejecting? Get out of fantasyland, and realize that the "ping" has no meaning to a civilian shooter. Lastly, even those who carried the Garand in harms way will tell you that the "ping" is NOT the issue that so many claim it is/was. The stories of the "ping" being the demise of many users of the M1 is URBAN LEGEND.

    3. How is the need to employ grease on a few areas such a mental challenge to the user? If a bazillion draftees inducted from 1939 to about 1970 could master applying grease to keep the M1 running, I figure about anyone can. In fact, I use very little oil on my M1's at all-it's almost exclusively grease. Just remember, when cleaning and lubing the M1, reach for the tube of grease instead of oil, and it's much simpler.
  16. BerettaNut92

    BerettaNut92 Well-Known Member

    Speaking of the Ping, is there something like a small bell that can be put in AR-15s or a Beretta that make them ping? The ping is just way :cool:
  17. meathammer

    meathammer Well-Known Member

  18. Kevlarman

    Kevlarman Well-Known Member

    I agree with Az Jeff; M1 thumb is a non-issue. M1 finger, on the other hand:

    Make darn sure that bolt is locked all the way back, not merely resting on the follower! It happened once, and I'll be damned if it's going to happen again!


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  19. BerettaNut92

    BerettaNut92 Well-Known Member

    Kevlarman, that isn't as bad as Karambit wrists :banghead:
  20. cpileri

    cpileri Well-Known Member


    I guess its no worse than Hakim Hand!

    Gee whizz AZ Jeff, take it easy. They're just observations. When trying to choose between quality rifles, you begin to pick nits.

    I found the EAA sight with the Saiga 100 in 30-06, and some infor around; but no one who is selling them. Course, that 4-rd mag would have to go...

    I would say 10-rds is the minimum mag capacity, although I am soon leaving the PRM and will then be able to have higher capacity feeding devices. But certainly no less than 8 (i.e. garand).

    The 'older' rem was the 742, and one random guy on the net says he liked his.

    Still seeking...

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