Best cartridge for Elk?

[joshk-k]

Hey there, fellas...

I just moved to Oregon, and am looking forward to the opportunity for some new game species, including elk. The only gun I have that might be appropriate is a lever action 30-30. I know the range limitations of the gun and the round, but assuming that I can get within a reasonable range, is a 170 grain 30-30 round adequate/ethical for taking an elk?

Thanks,
Josh

 

[RubenZ]

If I was stalking and could get between 30-75yrds of an elk I'd have no problem using a .30-30.

 

[marksman13]

eliphalet, your tune surely has changed since the the thread about hunting deer with a .357 mag... I seem to recall you being pretty addamment about using enough gun and then some.

Sorry about the highjack........

 

[eliphalet]

13 I wasn't gonna reply but will add this. There is a world of difference in a experienced hunter armed with a good rifle in 30-06 and some one that is asking if a 4" barrel 357 is enough for deer. Of course a 357 can kill a deer and in the right hands, under the proper circumstances would be fine. That said, if someone is having to ask there is a real good chance he otta have more gun.

 

[marksman13]

So, phantom shouldn't use a .270 because he had to ask?

 

[Alphazulu6]

Of course a 357 can kill a deer and in the right hands, under the proper circumstances would be fine. That said, if someone is having to ask there is a real good chance he otta have more gun.

Yeah exactly. Lets be reasonable and humane to the damn critters. A 30-30 is really pushing it for elk. A .357 mag 4" barrel for deer.... come on. I could say that I dropped a deer with my Ruger 10/22 but it would not be ethical for me to tell others that its perfectly ok to go out and do the same. (and no I have not ever shot at a deer with a .22 I was just using it as an example of being an unethical sportsman)

 

[Texas Colt]

Going back to the original question about which 3 calibers would you choose for elk...

I am surprised that no one has mentioned the 45-70. It certainly has more than enough power. The 38-55 is another great old caliber with plenty of punch. As a bow hunter and handgun hunter, when I do hunt with a rifle it's within 100 yards and with open sights.

Of course, shot placement is the bottom line. So no matter what caliber you choose, be really good with it.

Here's my picks:

1. 45-70
2. 38-55
3. 7.62x54R

 

[Logos]

It might be wise to use a proven and premium bullet in whatever caliber you choose. Spare no expense and research it a little.

The question of the .357 is interesting. I'd call it a stunt, and at a range of no more than 25 yards and a good round in a long barrel.

The good .25 calibers with a premium 120 grain bullet are not much different from the .270 and are still acceptable, but I'd sure prefer a shot that goes behind the shoulder and takes both lungs and doesn't have to deal with bone.

The OP is right to ask about these things. I hope he chooses wisely.

Respect the elk. He is an animal of some dignity and grace......and all animals that we take deserve to die well and quickly.

 

[eliphalet]

Never miss a good opportunity to shut up!"

Marksman13, you might find it advantageous to follow your own signatures advice.
Sorry forum I know I shouldn't but couldn't resist and will say no more whatever is thrown at me.


Josh, if a 30-30 was all I had I wouldn't stay home but would be very careful with distance and shot placement. If your hunting in western Oregon there would be a good chance of close distances. I would want a standing broadside shot in around the 100 yards or less category. I killed a elk with a 50 caliber black powder last fall with just such a shot. Good luck.

 

[Alphazulu6]

Respect the elk. He is an animal of some dignity and grace......and all animals that we take deserve to die well and quickly.

Amen.

 

[RubenZ]

Respect? If we really respected them we wouldn't take their lives You don't kill something or someone you respect.

 

[Alphazulu6]

Respect? If we really respected them we wouldn't take their lives You don't kill something or someone you respect.

Haha too funny. I plead the fifth.

 

[RubenZ]

I prefer to Honor their lives by eating their meat. Makes me feel better about killing them LOL.

 

[Art Eatman]

Enuf wandering about. That elk's done run off and gone...

, Art