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Best place to buy 45 Long Colt Round Nose Flat Point

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by GhostyDan, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. GhostyDan

    GhostyDan New Member

    Just like the title says if you buy 45 Long Colt RNFP wheres the best place in terms of quality and price?
  2. BCRider

    BCRider Active Member

    Have you considered reloading? You can reload exactly what you want for probably 1/3 the cost of buying any sort of factory .45Colt It may be as low as 1/4 the cost of the fancier specialty loads.

    If you shoot a fair amount of this stuff the number of loads required to pay back the cost of the reloading equipment will be achieved in half a year or less.
  3. stanmo

    stanmo New Member

    I'm with BC, in .45 Colt you have to load yourself for any cost effectiveness. Even at Walmart they are over $1 per round now
  4. USSR

    USSR Active Member

    Based on casting your own Lyman 454190 250gr LRNFP bullets and loading them, you can load a box of 50 for about $3.50. Compare this to the $30 - $35 per box of store bought ammo. The .45LC is DEFINITELY a cartridge that you want to reload for.

  5. MtnSpur

    MtnSpur New Member

    What IF reloading is not an option, then what? Please understand that reloading for many folks simply isn't possible due to either space/facility constraints, age/physical issues or startup equipment and learning curve barriers. I "think" the OP wants direction on boxed ammo access, though I could be wrong.
  6. CraigC

    CraigC Active Member

    I started handloading in a two foot space in the closet. If you want to do any appreciable amount of shooting with the .45Colt, you need to handload. It'll pay for itself in just a few boxes of overpriced ammo.
  7. GhostyDan

    GhostyDan New Member

    Mtmspur is right I was wondering where the best priced ammo is. I would really like to reload but space is kind of a problem.
  8. zxcvbob

    zxcvbob Active Member

    You have to reload if you shoot .45 Colt. Get a Lee Hand Press, a hand primer, a set of dies, a loading block (piece of wood or plastic with 50 holes drilled in it), and a used powder scale. That's pretty much all you need. You can use the scale to make a custom dipper out of something like a .40S&W case and a piece of wire so you don't have to weigh every charge.

    You can actually get by without the loading block because .45 Colts will stand up without tipping over unless you are just *really* clumsy.
  9. wlewisiii

    wlewisiii New Member

    This is the cheapest I've ever found for factory .45 Colt: http://sgammo.com/product/aguila/50-round-box-45-long-colt-200-grain-lead-aguila-cowboy-action-load

    If you are going to shoot .45 Colt you either need to be willing to spend through the nose or reload. I'm still paying off brass, so my cost for 50 is $9.24. Once I have all Once fired Brass, it drops to $6.74 per 50 rounds. Once I start casting it will drop to $2.75 per 50 rounds.

    Lee Hand Press, Lee dies, Lee dippers, some 250 gr LSWC, some Unique powder, large primers & brass. For ~$100 you can get started and shoot far more for the same cost. It'll all fit in a small box (I used to use a 4.5" Mortar round wood box but that was bigger than I needed) and hide in a closet between sessions.
  10. BCRider

    BCRider Active Member

    Even if you're living in a studio suite size place you can set up a minimal "one storage tote" reloading setup that fits in the space needed by four shoe boxes. And THAT is for a small bench style.

    I know you asked about where to buy the ammo. But even at the lowest cost you can find for .45Colt AND with free shipping you will still be able to reload for less than half the cost per round.

    Up here in Canada where all our stuff for reloading is about a third again as expensive I've got a buddy that comes over to use my press. He's reloading 200gn LRNFP bullets we buy for $66/500 from a commercial caster along with the rest of the stuff needed for 22cents a round. Even if you buy your bullets instead of melting and casting your own I strongly suspect you could cut that to around 15'ish cents per round in the US.

    The small Lee progressive turret press he's using along with the other bits to reload will fit into a medium size storage tote and go into a closet. The press is mounted to a hunk of 2x10 which we're currently clamping to a hunk of the counter in my laundry room pending my new shop renos being completed. The press along with the F clamps and other various bits and pieces needed would fit into a plastic storage tote about 12x18x10 with room to spare. Although to do this the handle would need to be removed as it sticks out at an odd angle.

    Once you get a little experience in reloading the time from the tote coming out of the closet to the first bullet rolling off into the catch bin would be no more than 15 minutes to set up, fill the powder and primer holders, check the charge weight to confirm nothing moved and then to start loading progressively. Cleanup and tear down from the last bullet to the closet door being closed to put the whole thing away would be about the same. In between you can easily produce 200 rounds an hour after even a little practice. My best at cranking out .38Spl on this same rig is to use up 100 primers in just over 15 minutes So around 350 an hour. And that was not a panicy pace. It left me time to watch that the primers were indexing correctly and with a sort of double bump on the lever to ensure the primers were seated well.

    If you simply do not want to reload that's fine. But please don't try to convince us that you can't reload for reasons of room or ability. Like any new skill it's easy and obvious after a bit of training and time at the job. And we've shown that a lack of space is not an issue. A lack of TIME because you're working too much overtime is about the only truly good excuse to not get into re-loading. But then you're making enough extra money from all that overtime that you can't complain about the outragious prices for .45Colt, right?.... :D
  11. GhostyDan

    GhostyDan New Member

    Just wondering the price to get me set up reloading, and could I reload in an old barn?
  12. joecil

    joecil New Member

    When I started out shooting 45 Colt in both pistol and rifle in CAS shooting events I did so with factory ammo. All of the stuff marked Cowboy loads is what you want and I bought what was cheapest at the time. My preference was Winchester first but not always the cheapest or easiest to find but found MagTech a good substitute. Another good source if buying in bulk is Georgia Arms for what you want. I now reload myself which really brought down my costs substantially also.
  13. zxcvbob

    zxcvbob Active Member

    You can get set up to reload at the kitchen table for less than $100.

    A hand press gets pretty tiresome to use and it's slow. But it works.
    A minimal bench-mounted press could be bolted to a piece of 2x6 and attached to the table with a couple of C clamps, and the Lee Reloader bench press is even cheaper than their hand press.
  14. savit260

    savit260 Member

    Wal Mart to actually answer the question.

    They sell Winchester 250gr rnfp's at my local one.

    Yes, it's a given , reloading is more cost effective in 45 Colt.
  15. Vern Humphrey

    Vern Humphrey Active Member

    My local Wal Mart has 50-round boxes of Federals at $32 a box. These are light loads, 225 grain bullet at around 850 fps.
  16. Buck13

    Buck13 Member

    Is there any problem with the $30 Lee press for handgun cartridges? I'm interested in reloading .32-20, which is supposed to be tricky to seat and crimp due to the fragile case, but for the same reason, I'm guessing it doesn't require lots of force to size, so maybe the open front design is not a drawback???

    I might branch out into 10 mm or .45 LC if I take the plunge...
  17. Vern Humphrey

    Vern Humphrey Active Member

    The handpress works just fine -- if anything, the feel it gives you, and it's reduced leverage is better for cases with thin brass.
  18. Buck13

    Buck13 Member

    I was thinking of Lee's cheapest bench press:

    Does the hand press change the workflow of loading? By which I guess I mean, is the depriming/priming process the same? How much different is the speed vs. a single press?
  19. zxcvbob

    zxcvbob Active Member

    Here's the manual for that cheap bench-mounted press: http://leeprecision.com/cgi-data/instruct/CF1391.pdf

    What I can't tell from it is how the press handles spent primers. With the hand press, they accumulate in the ram until it gets full, then you have to remove the shellholder and dump them -- except the shellholder is stuck because it has a primer jammed up the back.

    I will guess that the bench press's ram is drilled all the way thru and the spent primers fall out the bottom. That would be a big improvement for productivity, but might be messy -- it depends if you can attach a hose to the bottom to direct the primers into a coffee can, or if you can position a wastebasket under the whole thing and collect them that way. I've never seen one of the presses in person so I can't say. I wish the manual said something about it.
  20. joecil

    joecil New Member

    The Lee Reloader press dumps them on the bottom but not on the floor. There are two ways to deal with the spent primers though. Remove the press and sweep the spent primers up or like I did put a 2" funnel under the press, bolt it down with the funnel through the mount and add a tube to feed them to a jar or garbage can.

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