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Black Talon 180gr .40 ammo

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by kyarcher, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. kyarcher

    kyarcher Well-Known Member

    Is it legal to ship this stuff? I've been thinking about selling it and buying some Winchester Ranger T series .40

  2. bigfatdave

    bigfatdave Well-Known Member

    The misconception that black talons are "banned" or "illegal" is getting somewhat silly. It isn't illegal, it is obsolete and the victim of two things:
    1- a media campaign so ignorant that it stands out in with decades of ignorant reporting by lazy ignorant reporters
    2- idiots at gunshows selling their partial boxes at grossly inflated prices under the false flag of "banned super-deadly ammo"

    Ship just like any other ammunition, if you can find a sucker.
  3. KansasPaul

    KansasPaul Well-Known Member

    Absolutely legal to sell!! bigfatdave is right on with his reply. Put the ammo on one of the auction sites - I sold some 10mm Black Talons for $50.00 a box a couple of years ago - you should have no trouble selling it.

  4. TurtlePhish

    TurtlePhish Well-Known Member

    I'd keep a box, just for sheer novelty.
  5. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Well-Known Member

    I'd sell it since people seem to pay big $ for it on auction sites. Replace it with modern (better performing) ammo.
  6. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Other than the ORM-D shipping requirement there's no other issue.
  7. Tex4426

    Tex4426 Well-Known Member

    it is legal to sell...infact they still make them just a new name...the ranger talons and the winchester supreme elite pdx-1...same bullet just not black and silver
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2012
  8. Rollis R. Karvellis

    Rollis R. Karvellis Well-Known Member

    Somebody here on THR was selling a box for $100.00.
  9. Snowdog

    Snowdog Well-Known Member

    So true. I have indeed seen this many times at gunshows as well as on-line broker sites. Didn't P.T. Barnum have something to say about such things? :D

    Novelty is the only reason I can see for even owning this stuff these days.
  10. slowr1der

    slowr1der Well-Known Member

    While I don't doubt he was trying to get $100 for it, I'm pretty sure he never got that. They bring anywhere from $35-40 at local gun shows.

    That said, if you want to sell a box or two of it, let me know and I may be interested.
  11. trex1310

    trex1310 Well-Known Member

    I would sell them to some sucker and take the money and buy
    some modern day brown talons (Winchester T series).
  12. Loosedhorse

    Loosedhorse member

    Great hunting bullet. If I owned those, I'd pull the bullets and load them in 10s.
  13. kyarcher

    kyarcher Well-Known Member

    I have another question. I have three boxes of Ranger 155gr JHP but nowhere on the box does it show the "T". It's also brass cased instead of nickel and I've had it laying around for at least 5 years. I'm guessing the "T" series is a improved version of this Ranger?

  14. hammer502

    hammer502 Member

    if these go up for sale send me a pm with price. i may be interested.
  15. Airborne Falcon

    Airborne Falcon Well-Known Member

    I wish I still had all the old Black Talon lead I've sent down range over the years. lulz - there is plenty of "just as good" or even better stuff out there these days .... but by gosh, that Black Talon has grown legs of its own. Urban myth has it ripping gaping holes in cops through their vests and plates and big enough to drive a truck through.

    Just amazing. lulz
  16. Tex4426

    Tex4426 Well-Known Member

    when i looked at the regular rangers they seamed to be a different type hollow point than the T series
  17. ku4hx

    ku4hx Well-Known Member

    I have several boxes of the original loadings I likely will never sell or shoot. The marginal gain from selling them is not going to buy a significant amount ammunition.

    Mine take up very little space, don't require constant feeding and attention and I hand load 99.999% of all I shoot. Why sell them?

    Who knows, one day on "Antiques Road Show" they may bring a premium price.
  18. Snowdog

    Snowdog Well-Known Member

    Kyarcher, I don't believe those are "T" series JHPs. It's much like the .38special 110gr +P+ Winchester rangers where they are non-talon (but not necessarily less effective). I'm sure they are quite fine for defensive use.

    Yeah, they're about 3 generations improved. LOL They've been updated/improved a few times since their debut.
  19. qcsmitty

    qcsmitty Well-Known Member

    PDX1 is a bonded round and completely different. Ranger T is the same thing without the coating. Get Ranger T and sell the Talons.
  20. Tex4426

    Tex4426 Well-Known Member

    Good call snotty...the ranger talon released in 2007 with the pdx-1 comming in 2009 and the difference being its bonded...also seen a article stating the pdx1 is the bullet of choice for FBI ..not sure how accurate that info is

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