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Bond 21 gun?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Great Scot, Dec 19, 2004.

  1. Great Scot

    Great Scot Well-Known Member

    Has anyone heard if Bond will be carrying the P99 in the next film or if he is going to move to another weapon. I like the P99 but I always thought that he should carry something smaller. With all the full power compacts out there, he wouldn't have to go back to the PPK. Perhaps a Kahr PM9, a Rohrbaugh, or the 9mm CZ Rami. Any thoughts?
  2. Spackler

    Spackler Well-Known Member

    They haven't even cast the Bond role yet, so no word on the pistol.
  3. 10-Ring

    10-Ring Well-Known Member

    :scrutiny: Funny how the movies have become more about the gadgets & the babes more than anything else!
  4. CAS700850

    CAS700850 Well-Known Member

    And this is a problem because...? :)

    Great Scot and I have had this discussion before, in terms of what we think a real-world carry piece ought to be, versus the fictional character. I bet they keep the Walther in the film. The name has become too attached to the Bond mystique to change, unless someone pays for a little product placement. Not a bad idea, but I think it's unlikely.

    As an aside, I'm pulling for one more Brosnan, or High Jackman.
  5. cslinger

    cslinger Well-Known Member

    I always thought he should have carried a P7M8 but that is just me.
  6. LynnMassGuy

    LynnMassGuy Well-Known Member

    Hugh Jackman or Jason Statham would work well.
  7. otomik

    otomik Well-Known Member

    the thing is the PPK was just to small to read well on film (looks like a toy), they switched to the P5 back in the early eighties (Never Say Never Again and Octopussy) without mentioning it in the film, a bigger gun works cinematically (i'm not saying he needs a "dessert beagle" or anything). I can't say for certain but the gun he has in some of the 70's films looks more like a Beretta 70 or 80 series.

    anyway how about Rupert Everett and a SIG P-210 (for something more concealable how about a Beretta Tomcat or SIG P-239)
  8. crt360

    crt360 Well-Known Member

    I always liked the fact that a guy with a license to kill, successfully used a .32 or whatever the little Walther was. For some time, though, I've thought he should carry a P7M8 (like cslinger said). I guess it's more gadgety and spy-like. I'd love to see him reach into his coat and pull out a Hi-point. :uhoh:
  9. Great Scot

    Great Scot Well-Known Member

    Otomik, your probably right that the gun has to be big enough on film to be taken seriously. I guess I was hoping for to much to wish that the character's job and his weapon should go together. The P99 always seemed a little big for under a tux. The Walther P5 compact would be a decent compromise. It would be asking way to much for him to carry an ASP.

    I have heard that Clive Owen, the actor that played one of the assasins in the Bourne Identity, was scheduled to take over as Bond. He has the Timothy Dalton kind of grim appeal. I think he is pretty close to what Flemming would have envisioned as the perfect Bond. Not much humor and a lot of attitude.
  10. cstreu1026

    cstreu1026 Well-Known Member

    I watched Die Another Day for the first time a few weeks ago and I was majorly disappointed that Bond wasn't carrying a PPK. A lot of people threw a fit over him driving BMW's so they finally went back to Aston Martins. And James Bond carrying anything other than a PPK just seems wrong. I also thought it was one of the worst BOnd movies I had seen. They had gone WAY overboard on the special effects. Someone needs to put the diretors and producers of the next movie in a locked room with all the original bond movies and not let them out until they promise not to ruin a perfectly good series of movies.
  11. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge Well-Known Member

    /me dons flame retardant suit

    I'd like to see Bond carrying a Rohrbaugh


  12. cstreu1026

    cstreu1026 Well-Known Member

    Well thats better than the ugly P99.
  13. otomik

    otomik Well-Known Member

    This is true, Bond has shifted on his preferences a lot but not on his gun, not in the movies at least (yes there's the Beretta 418 .25acp from the novels so maybe you could get away with another Beretta).

    Dom Perignon now Bollinger
    Bentley to Aston Martin to Lotus to Aston to BMW to Aston
    Heavy Smoking to Light Smoking to Non-Smoking to occasional mise en scene smoking of Cuban cigar

    A Beretta 92/96 Compact in Stainless would be cinematically appealing and suit the character reasonably well, the main thing is to get a gun well proportioned to the actor, if we have a tall Bond around 6'2'' like Connery we need a bigger gun. Tom Cruise is pretty short 5'7'', and he used Beretta 92 Compacts in MI:2 so they would look fairly compact on someone more Bond's size.

    Hugh Jackman 6'2''
    Jason Stratham 5'11''
    Rupert Everett 6'4''
  14. Spackler

    Spackler Well-Known Member

    Rupert Everett? You have to be kidding!
    Clive Owen, yes. Hugh Jackman, maybe. Rupert Everett? As Bond? No. He'd have made a good Q, but not Bond.
  15. RRTX

    RRTX Well-Known Member

    I was just watching Die Another Day this past weeekend and I was suprised at one point to see Bond carrying a 4" or 6" revolver :eek:
  16. Dr.Rob

    Dr.Rob Moderator Staff Member

    True in the books Bond used a Beretta for "years" before Major Boothroyd gives him the PPK. It's been Walthers ever since.

    Supposedly Walthers were retired from real 'service' in the mid 70s. Apparently some security MI-5 types etc. used them.

    It has to be a Walther.
  17. Hammer-Ed

    Hammer-Ed Active Member

    Personally I think he should be issued the new Beretta PX4.

    Can't be anything without style. No Smiths, Sigs or, Gawd forbid, Glocks.

    You see that movie Johnny English with Rowen Atkinson? Beretta 92FS and I almost peed myself laughing at that guy. He's the greatest.
  18. Zundfolge

    Zundfolge Well-Known Member

    IIRC the BHP is still the standard sidearm of the British Army and the SAS carry Sig 226s .... maybe Agricola could verify this.

    I'd think that Bond, however, could carry whatever he wanted ... since the PPK is such a Bond tradition, I guess a P99 or P5 make the most sense (like the entire concept of a 00 agent makes sense :neener: )
  19. Dionysusigma

    Dionysusigma Well-Known Member

  20. otomik

    otomik Well-Known Member

    :confused: he's been mentioned before as a possibility, there was some stink about whether or not he was going to play a "gay james bond", but i think was a joke that got carried away. from a recent interview related to Shrek 2:
    have you seen Cemetary Man? he's perfect for the role physically and can do the snobby thing better than rough Stratham could (i'm coming at this from the perspective of someone that read the novels so YMMV).

    slightly larger than the PPK, the SIG-P232 would be great esp the stainless, maybe they could cook up some kind of Fleming detail to give it some extra Bond flair (Titanium frame, rare 9mm Police chambering, etc). heck maybe they could do one of their special rainbow titanium finishes in case Rupert Everett wants to play a gay james bond ;)

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