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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Harry Tuttle, Mar 22, 2005.

  1. Harry Tuttle

    Harry Tuttle Well-Known Member


    In just the latest chapter, there are 10 dead in Greater Minnesota, and the toll from multiple shootings this year is going through the roof.

    For Immediate Release:

    Contact Communications:
    (202) 898-0792
    Washington D.C. - The bloody attack on a Native American high school yesterday can't be viewed as an isolated incident. Though the motivations of the young killer are as of yet unknown, his rampage becomes another entry on a growing list of news reports on horrific gun violence and reports on the ready availability of ever-deadlier weapons.

    "In recent months, we have seen horrible shooting attacks in shopping malls, office buildings, courthouses, the homes of judges, private hunting lands and it seems like every other kind of place we like to believe is safe," said Brady Campaign and Million Mom March President Michael Barnes. "And we're deluged with reports about legal guns that can shoot down airplanes, guns designed to kill police wearing body armor, and the FBI being forced to watch as terrorist suspects arm themselves with firearms."

    "Our leaders are preaching about the culture of life," Barnes said. "They should spend the same amount of energy taking steps to stop our nation's culture of death."

    In Red Lake, Minnesota, America yesterday suffered the worst school related shooting incident since the Columbine shootings in April of 1999. In Philadelphia, Pennsylvanian, a frustrated mayor is urging the state's Governor and legislature to help stem the tide of violence. In Atlanta, a beloved judge, an innocent court reporter and a veteran police officer were laid to rest. In Tyler, Texas, a brutal spouse killed his wife and a bystander and wounded his son with an AK-47 copycat weapon.

    In Washington D.C., by contrast, lawmakers have allowed the Federal assault weapons ban to expire, limited law enforcement investigations of gun sellers, mandated the immediate destruction of records of gun sales, and stand poised to make it impossible for victims of gun violence to seek justice against reckless gun sellers in the courts.

    "We need to do more to make sure our communities? -- and especially our young people -- are safe from gun violence," said Kate Havelin, President of the Twin Cities, Minnesota Million Mom March chapter. "Today I hope all of us think of those who died, those who were injured, and all of those whose lives have been changed because of gun violence."

    "When will our leaders have enough?" asked Sarah Brady, Chair of the Brady Campaign. "When will the government do something to help stop the bloodshed? Red Lake sends all of America's mothers and fathers a message about how vulnerable all of our children are."
  2. grimlock

    grimlock Well-Known Member

    So, based on the Brady Bunch, we should:
    1. Arm teachers/security in schools.
    2. Prevent parents from raising children without morals. Perhaps religion could help here?
    3. Outfit all guns that are not currently being used with impenetrable forcefields.
    4. Maybe make shooting people illegal or something.
  3. LawDog

    LawDog Moderator Emeritus cum Laude

    Killed by guns stolen from a peace officer.

    Killed by a gun stolen from a peace officer.

    Stopped by a non-peace officer with a concealed handgun.

    Seems like a message here, but it's not one that the twinkies at Brady want to hear.

    Last edited: Mar 22, 2005
  4. Bear Gulch

    Bear Gulch Well-Known Member

    I thought that they tried to do that yesterday in the Terry Shindler-Schiavo case.
  5. boofus

    boofus Guest

    The teenager stole his grandfather's squad car and his shotgun and 2 handguns. How exactly will any gun control law prevent this from happening? Last I checked law enforcement/govt were exempt from EVERY SINGLE piece of gun control legislation passed.

    Brady should take a long walk off a short pier. Preferably in Australia where those great white shark attacks are happening. :cuss:
  6. Andrew Rothman

    Andrew Rothman Well-Known Member

    He was a neo-Nazi with depression issues. Any questions?

    Readily available from his cop grandpappy, who he murdered.

    ...many of which are places where law-abiding citizens carrying guns is banned. Coincidence?

    Reports from you, sure. But somehow it's never happened. Curiouser and curiouser!

    You mean moderate-power rifles will penetrate soft body armor only designed to protect against handgun bullets, which are used in 97% of gun crimes?

    Wait! You mean we can't take away thousands of people's civil rights because they are on a secret list of alleged "suspects?" Next you'll say something crazy like "innocent until proven guilty!"

    Using a hunting shotgun and a cop's handguns!

    By trying to limit concealed carry permits, which none of the murderers in the state have EVER carried?

    ...as the original law mandated...

    ...as the law mandates!

    ...just because these nusiance suits are intended to bankrupt the defendants, not win -- `cause they can't and don't.

    ...by disarming law-abiding people so that only criminals will have guns.

    ...which proudly contributes up to seven of the two-hundred-member-strong "Million" Moms.

    ...when metal detectors and citizen disarmament zones are in place.

  7. Nightfall

    Nightfall Well-Known Member

    As usual, there ain't much left to add after LawDog has stopped by. :)
  8. Waitone

    Waitone Well-Known Member

    Brady is once again tap dancing in the blood of murder victims.

    Without principal

    Words excape me.
  9. Sean Smith

    Sean Smith Well-Known Member

    Isn't it funny how they can NEVER show a correlation between gun control and crime statistics, yet they use violent crime as their justification for gun control? So all you get are anecdotes and hysterics. Truly a willfully irrational group if there ever was one. Isn't insanity defined as doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different outcome? [​IMG]
  10. foghornl

    foghornl Well-Known Member

    Was wondering how long it would take for Sarah to put on the ballet slippers.
  11. Joejojoba111

    Joejojoba111 Well-Known Member

    grimlock: "Maybe make shooting people illegal or something."

    Crazy talk. Make possession of simple items without intent to commit crimes illegal, that's the money spot.
  12. Archangel

    Archangel Well-Known Member

    Hey, Sarah, you know that your... I mean your son's 30.06 will penetrate police body armor, right?
  13. Wildalaska

    Wildalaska member

    We do that here too, dont we

  14. Missourigunner

    Missourigunner Well-Known Member

    Brady press release

    I nominate Sarah Brady for the "D.S" of the year award.
  15. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member

    I'm with you, Bear. Just which "Culture of Death" should we be more worried about here?

    Just wondering...
  16. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    It never takes the leftist extremists long to show up with screechy press releases. The bodies haven't even reached room temperature before the carrion feeders are on hand with dire warnings that have no basis in reality nor any value to Americans.

    Goebbels would be proud of the Brady crew of ghouls.
  17. TrybalRage

    TrybalRage Well-Known Member

    I have decided to write a letter to the Brady Campaign.

    In it, I will thank them for convincing me to join the NRA, the GOA and the SAF.

    I wouldn't have, but after learning about the utter BS they spew, and the fact that they want to take my newfound hobby away from me, I have to.

    Thank you Brady Campaign, for opening my eyes.

    Anyone else?

    The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence
    The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence
    1225 Eye Street, NW, Suite 1100
    Washington, DC 20005

    Brady Campaign Phone: (202) 898-0792
    Brady Campaign Fax: (202) 371-9615

    Brady Center Phone: (202) 289-7319
    Brady Center Fax: (202) 408-1851
  18. Grey54956

    Grey54956 Well-Known Member

    The course of action is clear:


    Obviously, if a law enforcement officer has a weapon in his or her possession, it will surely and tragically be forcefully taken from the officer and used to murder said officer. Law enforcement officers cannot be trusted with weapons, and doing so will only result in their tragic end. So, in order to protect law enforcement officers from themselves and from being slain by their own weapons, the only logical course of action is to ban them from carrying weapons of any sort. These weapons should immediatly be confiscated and redistributed to lawful gun owners with concealed carry permits, so that they may protect the law enforcement community and society in general.
  19. Bear Gulch

    Bear Gulch Well-Known Member

    It makes me sick to think how the antis wring their hands in glee every time one of these things happens. Disgusting vultures!
  20. cpileri

    cpileri Well-Known Member

    Gun owners: time to go on the offensive!

    Time to change tactics from a fighting retreat to attack.
    Let's take the MN reservation shooting and turn it to OUR agenda!

    "Pro-Freedom Groups point to lack of ability to defend themselves as contributor in deaths from school shooting"...

    Heartless? Not considerate of the bereaved? TOUGH. The anti-s don't have anything in mind but their agenda and that's the battlefield we need to fight them on! So let's have JPFO and Alan Gottlieb and GOA and the NRA (yeah right) come out with a statement like the one above.

    What we're doing isn't working so its time to change tactics!
    My point is, we have been fighting- and LOSING, frankly- the gentleman's war against the anti-gun/anti-freedom crowd since 1934. If a long, drawn out LOSS is ok with you, then my idea is not for you. But to WIN; that is, repeal the laws restricting (dare i say, infringing?) our freedoms, i am coming to the opinion that we need to begin to think about more aggressive, active tactics.

    We need to be the first to throw a response to world and local events! HCI is already posting their swill about the MN shootings. We need our side not to simply REACT to what HCI or DiFi says, but to proclaim from on high our OWN response! Copy the enemy's successful model and self righteously put forth the idea that lack of freedom to defend yourself left those people easy targets and say it like you mean it! Say it as if there's no way in the world anyone could disagree.
    No apologies, no compromise!

    In this game a compromise is a LOSS.

    That's my idea, more or less. I hope our leadership and political voice catches on.

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