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Brownie POP

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by Bruz, Mar 22, 2003.

  1. Bruz

    Bruz Well-Known Member

    Jedi, sorry to be complicit in hijacking your butterfly knife thread!

    Got it down?

    Brownie, I would not be so presumptive to say that I have it down, but can say that I am able to "perform" the POP and am already much faster with it than I am with the "wave". At first it was kinda anti-climatic but my son noticed that not only am I alot faster with the POP, but can draw with much more "stealth". With out my arm waving around the draw is less noticable (if desired), but more importantly it would be harder for an opponant to block me in opening the knife. I also have better grip and control with your method. Ya going to have any classes around here? Thanks!
  2. brownie0486

    brownie0486 Well-Known Member

    Sounds like you are on your way toward knife craft. My pleasure sir.

    The presentation time is important so that when danger threatens you are able to fill your hand with steel immediately.

    PM me and we can dicuss your question about training.

  3. DRG

    DRG Member

    Brownie ....

    please , please , please ........

    how can i learn the " pop "so i can dump my waved emersons???

    thanks :D
  4. brownie0486

    brownie0486 Well-Known Member

    check your PM

  5. DRG

    DRG Member

    brownie ....... THANK YOU :D

    Last edited: Mar 23, 2003
  6. Soap

    Soap Well-Known Member

    Okay...I feel like I'm being left out. I'm willing to send a check to Mr. Brown just so I can learn this technique. I'm tired of thumbstuds, holes, flippers, waves, et al. How about it Brownie?
  7. brownie0486

    brownie0486 Well-Known Member


    Check your PM.

    I'd take the check but I'm giving you an early christmas present.

  8. Tamara

    Tamara Senior Member


    As someone who totes a waved Emerson daily, (mostly for its convenience) I'd love to find a way to make other knives as responsive.

    Do you publish an instruction pamphlet? I'm intrigued...
  9. Soap

    Soap Well-Known Member

    I'm extremely impressed. After doing it about a thousand times* with both a CRKT M16-14 and a Benchmade 940, I'm hooked. This technique will definitely change the way I look at folding knives. Mr. Brown, thank you for your generosity!

    Nothing like the Christmas spirit in March! :D

    Which knives are best for the Brownie Pop? I'm looking to keep the price under $200 if possible. I really like the solid slab of G10 and ATS-34 known as the Buck Strider folder. I've handled a bunch of knives in my day but I haven't used the Brownie Pop on any of them so I'm essentially starting from square one in my evaluations.

    *An exaggeration obviously since doing it 1000 times in a half hour would make my arm fall off ;) It actually only took about 3 tries to be able to do it, and 50-100 repetitions to get it down.
  10. brownie0486

    brownie0486 Well-Known Member

    Tamara--Check your PM

    Glad you like your present Dan.

    For under two hundred you can get one hell of a knife for defensive purposes. I prefer tip down when choosing mine. Tip up has produced stabbing my thumb with the tip while diving into the pocket on quick retrieve exercises.

    Pm me once you think you have found something you like, I'll see what I can do.

  11. Charles S

    Charles S Well-Known Member


    If you don't mind sharing again, I am very interested. I am currently carrying two waved Emerson knives, but I am always on the look out for a better technique. I guess we will always be students.

  12. Bruz

    Bruz Well-Known Member

    It actually only took about 3 tries to be able to do it, and 50-100 repetitions to get it down.

    Daniel, congradulatios! I have been practicing with all my knives and certain ones do lend themselves more to the POP than others...thought a heavier blade (used a Microtech LCC) would be better because of the gravity used but was practicing today with a lighter blade (Benchmade 710) and it was much easier. I would go to a knife show and try a bunch out, or make friends with Tamara as I think she has every knife made!
  13. Soap

    Soap Well-Known Member

    Here's a tip for those who have learned the Brownie Pop: Go to the Emerson knives website and download the .mpegs from the video vault of people opening with the Wave. Then you can pretty much watch the file on repeat and see if you can beat them on the draw. Good practice!

    Bruz- Thanks! It is a great technique. But you're right, we're at zero in our knife evaluations now...roadtrip to Tennessee! ;)
  14. brownie0486

    brownie0486 Well-Known Member


    The pivots are tighter on the LCC [ I have one ]. Breakin on the LCC can be up to 1000 "Brownie Pop" s.

    Mine is just starting to work well after that many retrievals from the pocket and "popping" the blade.

    It works better as your repetitions of opening increase over time.

  15. Wes_Tulsa

    Wes_Tulsa Member

    I'm dyin' to know what the "brownie pop" is.
  16. cold

    cold Member

    Geesh, will you guys knock it off? :) All I hear is the sound of blades snapping into lock. Brownie, what have you started? :cool:

    It works, its fast. What more can you ask? I'll tell you, "What am I going to do with it now?" You've pulled it, do you indulge yourself in a Rambozo fantasy, or do you employ solid defensive techniques that work. You're on the road, ask the questions.

    bladework neophyte,
  17. Bruz

    Bruz Well-Known Member

    Geesh, will you guys knock it off?

    Think I will...ya think insurance will cover "POPers elbow"?
  18. Charles S

    Charles S Well-Known Member


    I am still working on the technique, but my initial impression is that it will be the best way do rapidly deploy an edged weapon in a defensive situtaion. The technique works very well with my Emerson Mini-Commander.

    I think it is an outstanding addition to my weaponscraft knowledge.


    Thanks for the information.

  19. brownie0486

    brownie0486 Well-Known Member


    "draw straight, keep your steel sharp and watch your back";)

  20. ahenry

    ahenry Well-Known Member

    Since this was brought back to the top, I’d like to play devils advocate if I might

    Somebody please explain to me why I need to emphasize rapid knife opening. Saying you need a super fast knife opening skills is like saying you need speed like Bob Munden has. I certainly wouldn’t suggest that speed is bad, but I have yet to hear one person provide a credible reason for it other than perhaps, “its coolâ€. That’s a valid enough reason, but lets not attribute more worth to speed than it deserves (don’t take that as an insult Brownie, its just a comment on the need for the tactic, not the tactic itself). All that one could ever possibly need is a solid draw, not a fast one.

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