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building a suppressor

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by kingcheese, Apr 28, 2011.

  1. kingcheese

    kingcheese Well-Known Member

    when you build a suppressor, how much of it can you modify after the fact, i am assuming its like a firearms kinda deal where one specific part can not change(like a frame or reciever)

    i want to build a supressor with a tube i can change, because id like to use a redbull can for the tube, but i want it replaceable,

    with that goal, how do i go about building one so i dont have to pay 200 bucks every time i have to repair my red bull "can"
  2. dmlehto

    dmlehto Active Member

    WOW, really? aside from the soda can idea i think you'll be safe. let us know how well it works.
  3. Rail Driver

    Rail Driver Well-Known Member

    I don't see a red bull can holding up to much more than .22LR pressures at best. It would also not be nearly rigid enough to be effective. You'd be better off buying one of those adapter deals that let you use an oil filter as a replaceable suppressor. (legally of course)
  4. Telekinesis

    Telekinesis Well-Known Member

    I think you'd have a hard time making the exterior tube a replaceable item unless you could figure out a way to put the serial number somewhere else. Even then you get into the whole aspect that replaceable wipes for suppressors still need a tax and stamp for each one...
  5. kingcheese

    kingcheese Well-Known Member

    i guess i should ask it this way, what parts can be repaired/replaced with out paying for another stamp?
  6. Zak Smith

    Zak Smith Moderator Staff Member

    Even an SOT cannot replace the tube if it is the serialized part.

    On a non-SOT with a Form 1 suppressor, you cannot possess any extra parts for the suppressor, period.
  7. Bubbles

    Bubbles Well-Known Member

  8. OldmanFCSA

    OldmanFCSA Well-Known Member

    Make the can capable of sliding over an existing silencer body - change it as your tastes change, use o-rings to hold in place.
  9. kingcheese

    kingcheese Well-Known Member

    wouldnt that cover up the serial numbers and get me in trouble other ways?
  10. kingcheese

    kingcheese Well-Known Member

    what exactly is a replaceable wipe?
    and what does SOT mean?
  11. dprice3844444

    dprice3844444 member

    on some mac silencers,they have a nomex cover,some use a rub berized cover.as long as it is not permanent.just cut a hole where the numbers are
  12. kingcheese

    kingcheese Well-Known Member

    i guess changing the baffles also counts as building a new suppressor?

    i really want to try it, but i want something i can slowly modify, without going broke
  13. Zak Smith

    Zak Smith Moderator Staff Member

    There's no need to guess when the published law and ATF rulings will tell you exactly what you need to know.
  14. RhinoDefense

    RhinoDefense Well-Known Member

    Correction: An SOT may replace the tube. When the suppressor is transfered to anyone other than another SOT or LE agency, a transfer tax applies.
  15. Bubbles

    Bubbles Well-Known Member

    Wipes? :eek: That technology is so..... 1970's...
    We use baffles or monocore designs now.

    SOT = Special Occupational Taxpayer. In the firearm world it's a dealer or manufacturer who pays a tax to FedGov each year for the privilege of being able to make or transfer NFA firearms without paying an individual tax on each one.

    So you, as a non-manufacturer/non-SOT individual, would file a Form 1, pay $200, and wait for the approved form to be returned prior to making your suppressor. As a manufacturer who has paid the annual SOT I file a Form 2, I have 24 hours after making the firearm to submit my form, and pay nothing.
  16. RhinoDefense

    RhinoDefense Well-Known Member

    Certain government agencies specify reduction numbers in their MENS that cannot be obtained with today's baffle technology alone, as good as it is. Wipes are necessary in those instances.
  17. Zak Smith

    Zak Smith Moderator Staff Member

    It's no longer the same suppressor. They have essentially destroyed the original one and replaced it with a new tube with a new serial number. That was the point of the ATF letter from a couple years ago.
  18. Telekinesis

    Telekinesis Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty sure I've seen some suppressors with wipes recently... I know the design itself is old, but I don't know if you can do enough with baffles to get a really short suppressor as quiet as you can if you use wipes instead.

    I'm not sure how old this can is, but cans with wipes are still out there.

    Regardless, I was using it as a point that suppressor parts can't be swapped out without paying the tax again.

    I may also have a pic of an even shorter can with wipes but I can't find it right now.


    Ahh, here we go. A nice short suppressor with a few wipes.


    As an aside, I just think I found my next gun related gift! That's a pretty nice suppressor for $350!
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2011
  19. RhinoDefense

    RhinoDefense Well-Known Member

    Read what I posted.
  20. jmorris

    jmorris Well-Known Member

    The checkmate is a monocore that can also use wipes.

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