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Bullseye vs Unique vs Titegroup

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by arthury, Sep 14, 2012.

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  1. arthury

    arthury Well-Known Member

    All three are fast burning powders, all have illustrious track records and all are pretty versatile.

    If my intention is to load 45acp & 9mm Luger for competition, which of these are consistently more accurate?
  2. Yarddog

    Yarddog Well-Known Member

    I don't shoot competition but Unique dose fine in (ALL) my hand guns. They are accurate to boot ; )
  3. ljnowell

    ljnowell Well-Known Member

    from those three I would pick bullseye. If there was no power factor to be made I would probably pick AA#2, even with powqer factor I might, as long as I could make it safely.
  4. Kevin Rohrer

    Kevin Rohrer Well-Known Member

    Unique is bulkier than Bullseye and safer to use. Double-charges are not your friend.
  5. grubbylabs

    grubbylabs Well-Known Member

    I do not know why I am the exception to the rule but Unique meters very consistently for me out of both my Hornady dispenser and my uni-flow. My 44 shoots very accurately with it. I only load 6 grains of it under a cast 240 grain bullet to get about 800fps out of a 4" barrel. In that gun it is a tack driver.
  6. ColtPythonElite

    ColtPythonElite Well-Known Member

    I also have Hornady and Uniflow measure. Either does just fine with Unique, also.
  7. ArchAngelCD

    ArchAngelCD Well-Known Member

    Bullseye and Titegroup are fast powders but unique is a medium speed powder. Since you said you're loading 45 Auto and 9mm ammo for competition the powder you use will depend on the bullet weight and power requirements. One powder might not work for both and faster powder usually reach pressure limits before they generate the velocities necessary to make power, especially with heavier bullets.

    More info will help us help you...
  8. arthury

    arthury Well-Known Member

    • Bullet: 230gr FMJ or LRN (moly-coated)
    • Gun: 1911 Govn't model
    • PF: 165,000

    9mm Luger
    • Bullet: 124gr FMJ MG
    • Gun: CZ 75 SP01, Beretta 92A1, Px4
    • PF: 125,000
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2012
  9. ArchAngelCD

    ArchAngelCD Well-Known Member

    Is there a power factor in the competition you are going to shoot?
  10. arthury

    arthury Well-Known Member

    It's IDPA and so, the usual. I will update the info above.
  11. ArchAngelCD

    ArchAngelCD Well-Known Member

    It's not too hard to get a 124gr bullet to 1025 fps in the 9mm without going over pressure but doing so with fast powders will increase felt recoil. I have had very good results using HS-6 and Longshot to push a 124gr 9mm bullet to 125 power although Longshot can be loud.

    On the 45 end, 165 is not all that hard to achieve with a 230gr bullet. 800 fps is more than enough and that's not hard to do with most powders. Unique and W231 will easily get you where you need to be.

    If you want to use only 1 powder, of the 3 you mentioned i would definitely go with Unique...
  12. rikman

    rikman Well-Known Member

    Unique & Bullseye for the above mentioned reasons....
  13. coalman

    coalman Well-Known Member

    BE in .45acp and Unique in 9mm. These are more consistently accurate than me. TG not consistently so much.
  14. Shmackey

    Shmackey Well-Known Member

    Whichever meters best for you. For me, that rules out Unique.
  15. ArchAngelCD

    ArchAngelCD Well-Known Member

    I agree Unique does not meter well. I was answering the question as asked. I would also use a different powder, possible 2 different powders.
  16. BBDartCA

    BBDartCA Well-Known Member

    Titegroup is the K-Mart of powders. Dirt cheap. Burns not so clean. VERY tiny range of acceptable charge weights. If your powder measure does not like it, your accuracy at best will suffer. At worst you will get a KB. You can triple charge with Titegroup!

    Bullseye and Unique are hard to beat for 45 ACP. I think AA#7 and Power Pistol are the way to go for 9mm with all weights.
  17. kerreckt

    kerreckt Well-Known Member

    I guess I am the odd man out. I have used all three for loading the basic three (9mm,40 and 45acp). I settled on Titegroup mostly because I felt it was cleaner and more accurate than the others. I don't shoot in any competitions but my sons and I shoot about 2-3K rounds a month and it works for us. I am going to go back and try Unique again. Bullseye is the dirtiest powder I've ever reloaded and I will continue to not use it. What about PowerPistol that is one of my favorites,also.
  18. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator

    I agree AA #2 would be worth trying here. AA #5 will do it easily.

    Of the three powders mentioned, I would use Bullseye or Unique. I don't care that Unique doesn't meter as well as some, it meters well enough and on target results are good.
  19. Jim Watson

    Jim Watson Well-Known Member

    I am in the None Of The Above category... almost.

    For .45 CDP and 9mm SSP/ESP I have loaded mostly W231/HP38 for years.
    I have tried this and that fad powder, seldom more than one can each, but always gone back to 231.

    However, I have lately been working with .45 Minor for ESP. It lets me shoot the bigbore without kicking my arthritis around.
    I tried several powders. Flake powders give more uniform velocities than Ball powders like 231, WST, or TG in the 650 fps range. Bullseye meters more precisely than large flakes like Clays, Solo 1000 or 700X. So I am now loading out of only my second can of Bullseye in 40 years... but with a big jug on the shelf.

    The internet rings with cries of Dirty Bullseye, but I have found it to be like my gunsmith says, the residue is black and nasty LOOKING but is physically light and ashy, unlike the gritty fouling from other products.

    Unique is a good compromise powder if you want to cover a wide range of calibers out of one can. But for specific loads you can usually do better.

    So on the OP's list of three, I pick Bullseye.
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2012
  20. jaysouth

    jaysouth Well-Known Member

    I am not a gun-dancer(IDPA, etc) but I would go along with Jim Watson, above. 231 will certainly serve you well if it can make the power factor in 9mm safely.

    I know of a bunch of bulleseye shooters who torture expensive 9mm 1911s into winner's circles in national level competitions. All use Titegroup and Hornady XTP bullets. Don't know how it would get you to your power level in 9mm.
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