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Business owner puts up large pro-gun billboard

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by ryan3465, Mar 5, 2013.

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  1. Akita1

    Akita1 Well-Known Member

    Amen; what does IP have to do with our beloved RKBA threads? Understood on the obvious risk here, but we're buzz-killing the beauty of it.
  2. Texshooter

    Texshooter Well-Known Member

    that the owner of the billboard might already have permission.
  3. gfanikf

    gfanikf Well-Known Member

    Yeah I doubt that WB was going to license him the right to use that image. At best he could claim is a fair use defense, but no way that was licensed.
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  4. 19-3Ben

    19-3Ben Well-Known Member

    Man.... what's with all the lawyer-hate? Jeebus. We're like the scapegoats of the professional world.

    Not as good of an idea as it used to be. It's waaay off topic for this thread so PM me if you're interested in discussing the pros/cons of this course of action, but it's definitely not the world of practice that it was 10 years ago.
  5. X-JaVeN-X

    X-JaVeN-X Well-Known Member

    So you're going to make an argument based on the assumption that the business owner did not first gain permission?

    Is that standard practice to operate under assumption?

    BBQJOE Well-Known Member

    If I was a mod, I'd lock this puppy.
  7. gfanikf

    gfanikf Well-Known Member

    I'm going to make an educated guess as a copyright lawyer who does extensive work in licensing.
  8. X-JaVeN-X

    X-JaVeN-X Well-Known Member

    I stopped listening after the word "guess"... To make an "educated" guess, you would need to be educated on this particular instance, and since all we really know is that some guy stuck dirty harry on a billboard, then my guess is just as good as yours at this point.

    I've worked on computers for over a decade and have a BS in computer science as well as A+ and N+ certifications, but I wouldn't use this as a relevant argument to make an "educated guess" about somebody's computer issues when all they have told me is "My computer isn't working". So why would the fact that you do copyright law have any bearing on an issue where you know no relevant details about this business owner and the steps he took before having this billboard made? Maybe I just prefer informed decisions over educated guesses...I'm weird that way...

    I'm done with this argument now...I like the billboard personally, and if it gets taken down because the owner broke some copyright law, then so be it...it'll be fun while it lasts.
  9. BigBore44

    BigBore44 Well-Known Member

    I seriously doubt he intended the billboard to be anti-2A, seeing as how he quoted the 2A at the bottom. What I don't understand is why were the first comments and many following to be to say something along the lines of "oh he's gonna get sued, IP infringement, and all the negativity about Dirty Harry being a cop and him having the gun and not us"? Are you all freaking kidding me?!?!?

    Now the cops are against us too right? "Well they are in New York and California" so a couple bad apples and now cops are bad? Sound fimiliar? Kinda like some whackos with guns giving all of us a bad name? You all amaze me. Talk about hipocracy. Last time I checked, cops were citizens also.

    There was a time when people envisioned being like Dirty Harry. No frills, didn't take $&?@ from no one, save the day hero cop who got the job done. Maybe why so many people bought model 29's?? Not anymore. So sad. I love my 29. And I love that billboard.

    But who cares. Lets bash on LEO's (how many members of THR are cops?) and lets find some reason to bash a gun owner who put up a billboard.
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  10. 12131

    12131 Well-Known Member

    And how did you come with this conclusion? Do you have all the facts of the case?
  11. 12131

    12131 Well-Known Member

    Thank you.
  12. Bobson

    Bobson Well-Known Member

    Wish I could give you a hug, man. I couldn't agree more.

    I don't see how anyone can interpret his sign to be anti-2A unless they want to.

    The picture and quote aren't even the point. Look at the same sign with no picture/quote at all. It's clearly a Pro-2A sign.

    Look at the same sign with a picture that's clearly Anti-2A. It's still a Pro-2A sign!

    Maybe the guy made a bad choice with the picture/quote, but nobody here knows whether or not he got permission, so it's a totally dead issue. Should have been squashed at post #3. The billboard itself is excellent.

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  13. gfanikf

    gfanikf Well-Known Member

    I'm stopped listening when you mentioned you weren't a lawyer and had no knowledge of copyright law.
  14. jrdolall

    jrdolall Well-Known Member

    One big problem with internet lawyers is that they give out advice when it wasn't requested. This thread got hijacked by internet copyright lawyers discussing things that were in no way related to the OP. It is a billboard. A business owner put it up. His business his sign.
    I wish my lawyers, the real ones, would call me with free advice. I have to call them and give them my firstborn.
  15. joeschmoe

    joeschmoe Well-Known Member

    Communists do not support IP either. It's a Capitalist principle.
  16. X-JaVeN-X

    X-JaVeN-X Well-Known Member

    So what you're saying is you still have no info to base your argument...gotcha...Don't be mad that your bigshot lawyer ego got thumped by a lowly computer tech using simple logic...
  17. gfanikf

    gfanikf Well-Known Member

    I got enough info to base it on, I'm sorry if you can't accept that.
  18. DammitBoy

    DammitBoy Well-Known Member

    Yeah, there's a reason for that - the same reason most sleazy greedy fake politicians are lawyers...
  19. Frank Ettin

    Frank Ettin Moderator

    Good God, what a hairball.
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