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Call to action!!!! Read this!!!!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by ThrottleJockey72, Jul 16, 2009.

  1. There is a bill before congress called S845. It is a national reciprocity bill that needs our attention. It is scheduled for a hearing next week, but may not make it that far. Senator Thune (the author of the bill) is trying to attach it to the defense bill being voted on this week. Call BOTH of your Senators and pledge your support, IMMEDIATELY. Here is the number for the Capitol switchboard where they are happy to connect you to your "critters". 202-224-3121 The bill has 22 co-sponsors, so there is already quite a bit of support for it, but you can NEVER have too much.

    Mods, if this needs to be in another place, please put it there. I thought here would get the most attention the quickest. Thank you.
  2. The funny thing is that it was not the NRAin't that is keeping me up to date on this bill, but OOIDA, a trucking assoc. that I belong to....How's that for proof that the NRAin't just doesn't cut the mustard?
  3. carebear

    carebear Well-Known Member

    Or maybe you could exercise personal responsibility and track its progress yourself?

    Just a thought.

    The NRA isn't there to hold our hands or fight our battles for us.
  4. Actually, yes. That is EXACTLY what they are there for. Additionally, aren't they the group that WE PAY to watch and inform us of these bills? Do you really expect EVERY citizen to babysit congress and keep up with EVERY bill they propose? If you have time to do it, then I suggest perhaps you should get a job. In all the years I have sent them my money, the ONLY time they have EVER contacted me for any reason, was to beg for more money. Then they turn around and lobby AGAINST the cause I pay them to support.
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  5. JohnKSa

    JohnKSa Well-Known Member

    Am I the only person who thinks that getting the federal government involved in CCW (in nearly anything for that matter) is a REALLY bad idea?

    Seems to me they've got plenty on their plate at the moment and they're doing their level best to screw it up beyond all belief. Based on their track record, I'd like them to stay far, FAR away from my legal ability to carry. I have virtually zero confidence that things would actually improve as a result of getting Congress into the business of writing CCW laws.
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  6. Generally, I am inclined to agree, but if you just follow the link and read the bill, there is NOTHING invasive about it. It simply reads that all states with permits honor all other states permits.
  7. JohnKSa

    JohnKSa Well-Known Member

    Can you think of a single example of something significant that Congress has done in the last century that was as simple and non-intrusive/non-infringing as you're saying that law will be?

    Don't let the sight of a tempting carrot cause you to go against your better judgement.
  8. Yes, there are plenty of examples. The war which you speak of was fought and lost nearly 150 years ago. The war of northern aggression gave the federal gov WAY too much control over the states, and a national carry law WOULD be a bad thing. This is just a law guaranteeing reciprocity in lieu of the BS we currently deal with. You see, a great number of us are in multiple states on any given day, and are in high risk jobs that make us a target for criminals and often forced to park and sleep in unsafe places. Additionally, we are faced with prison time just for protecting ourselves. Example: I am in the midwest this week, so I bring my gun, now suddenly I am dispatched to New Jersey or California and could be jailed for even having it with me because they have no reciprocity with my state. I see your point, there are a few kinks that will need to be worked out, like in NY, your guns serial number must be on your permit for you to carry legally, and no other state has this requirement......
  9. Here it is in full, pretty straight forward and to the point. In fact, probably the simplest and shortest bill I have ever seen.
  10. everallm

    everallm Well-Known Member

    Actually there is a sneaky (good sneaky) element to this.

    To allow citizens who have concealed carry permits from the State in which they reside to carry concealed firearms in another State that grants concealed carry permits, if the individual complies with the laws of the State.

    It means that, for example, an FL holder could carry in ANY state that "officially" allows CCW which would include oooooooh NY and NJ.

    Since the residents of these states would NOT be able to effectively enjoy the same rights its an instant SC challenge on 14th (and possibly 9th) amendment grounds,

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