Can an employer search your vehicle?

[Harold Mayo]

After some consultation...

If the company has no written policy AT ALL and it's just something passed around by word of mouth, then the company is SOL. If there is a written policy in effect, then the employee is SOL, union or not. As has been pointed out, employment is voluntary. By taking that paycheck, you are implicitly agreeing to the working rules that are in effect. If you don't agreee with them, then you shouldn't take the paycheck.

If the company had no policy in effect and has since changed it and HAS NOT notified the employees by posting the change or having a meeting about it, then the company hasn't really made that change yet.

If it were me and I were under suspicion, I would probably just do what another poster said...drive as close to work as possible and then walk.

 

[Rebeldon]

Property rights are just as sacred as gun rights. If they own the property, they make the rules. It stinks that they are such idiots, but that's the way it is. They can't force search you, but they can deny you entrance to the property if you refuse to be searched. Park your car somewhere else and walk. That really stinks too, but what else can you do?

If you go to a concert hall and the entrance rules include "No weapons", they have a right to ask you to be searched. They can't force search you, but they don't have to allow you to see the concert unless you allow them to search you for weapons. I had a pocket knife on me when I went to a concert. When the security guard searched me, they found my Swiss Army knife. I didn't consider it a weapon so I didn't think anything about it. The security guard confiscated it from me. That's where he crossed the line. All he could do was to tell me to leave and come back without the knife, or not to come back at all. I had a brain fart and allowed him to take my knife. After the concert, I told a police officer that the security guard confiscated my knife and he got spitting mad. It turns out that at least 70 knives were confiscated and at the end of the concert, twenty people complained to the police. The police made the concert security give all the knives back, and he splained to them that they didn't have the authority to confiscate jack ****! He told them they had the right to "request" a search, only to prevent the weapon from being brought into the concert hall. If somebody refused, they hade the right to refuse them entrance. It turns out the head security guy had all the knives if a box and he was going to take them home. One guy had a $100 Browning engraved hunting knife. One of the other security guards said something about him taking the knives to the flea market and selling them. What a jerk!

I'm not sure how "Right to Work" laws would enter into this situation. It is unreasonable for them to deny you your right to carry a firearm to and from their property, which is what they are doing by prohibiting you from carrying it onto their property, even if it's just in your car and it stays there. But then, you dont' have to work there. Perhaps that's where the "Right to Work" laws come into play. What if they were complete idiots and said they had a "zero tolerance for drugs" and didn't even allow you to bring your personal medication onto their property? If you had diabetes or hypertension, you could not work there, and that would be a violation of your right to work. It seems that providing for your own elf-defense is as much a right as providing for you own health, and in a way it's related. What if you were married to a woman who has a jealous ex-husband who wanted to kill you, and you carried a firearm for personal protection? If you weren't allowed to carry it onto their property how would you be able to protect yourself from your wife's jealous ex-husband? At some point, you would have to discard your weapon in order to enter their property, leaving you vulnerable. Are they going to provide an armed guard for you?

 

[WebHobbit]

If only my workplace was located in Kentucky the employer COULD NOT FIRE me for having a weapon in the car:

http://www.law.state.ky.us/civil/opinions/oag9812.htm

 

[Zip06]

I would invest in a lawyer and get the right answer. Seems to me that cops have to have probable cause. Is the employers suspicion probable cause? Sounds to me kinda like, can the employer search you. What if you set off a metal detector, do you have to submit to a search? Talk to a lawyer.

 

[Zedicus]

Good Question, What States are "Right To Work" States?

 

[Moparmike]

"Right to Work" means that joining a union cannot be a stipulation for being hired. You are free to do so if you wish, but the company has no say in wether you do or not.

Other states have unions in some jobs and you have to join them to keep your employment.

 

[Zedicus]

"Right to Work" means that joining a union cannot be a stipulation for being hired. You are free to do so if you wish, but the company has no say in wether you do or not.

I know that, I just wanted to know which states ARE "Right to Work" States...
There has to be somekind of list somewhere....

 

[Calmwater]

Zedicus : http://www.nrtw.org/rtws.htm

 

[Zedicus]

Thanks Calmwater, Exactly what I was looking for

 

[Westicle]

One thing I don;t get is why more people are not taking up the constitutional challenge ....... for a state to retain statehood it is clearly written that they must follow the letter of the constitution and not infringe upon it's right either way.

California for one is in clear violation of that... someone should see about revoking thier statehood.