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CCW permits among the killed / wounded VT students?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by yhtomit, Apr 19, 2007.

  1. yhtomit

    yhtomit Well-Known Member

    Obviously a lot of people are talking about what might have been wrt CCW in the Virginia Tech shooting.

    I'm curious if anyone has direct knowledge about any of the killed or wounded victims; did any of them have CCW permits? Were any of them hunters or target shooters?

    Nothing can make what happened better (or worse, really), but I'd like to know whether there was anyone there in the same situation as Suzanna Gratia Hupp and the others at the Killeen Luby's in 1991. (Guns that *would likely have been carried* if not for the campus restrictions.)

  2. Vern Humphrey

    Vern Humphrey Well-Known Member

    I'm looking for the same thing -- if we can find one, I have several people willing to help fund a lawsuit on his or her behalf.
  3. stevek

    stevek Well-Known Member

    Vern, IF it goes forward, you can count on a donation to the fund from my wife and I. Please keep us informed...:fire: :cuss:
  4. Vern Humphrey

    Vern Humphrey Well-Known Member

    Let's all keep looking -- let's find the right guy and contact him.

    For a start, do we have any members in Blacksburg, VA who could help locate someone willing to carry the flag?
  5. blinkin357

    blinkin357 Active Member

    You may find some victims who served in the military or as police officers as well.
  6. MikePGS

    MikePGS Well-Known Member

    Didn't the roanoke times release the names of every CCW holder in the state of virginia a few months back? If you could find that list i'm sure it would be a simple matter to run the names of the victims against the names on the list (using search functions of course).
  7. Rumble

    Rumble Well-Known Member

    Blinkin, according to CNN, one of the victims was in fact former military. He was one of the faculty members who was killed.
  8. .cheese.

    .cheese. Well-Known Member

    If you find information on this, please PM me. I would like to include it in my research paper.

    After talking to the dean today, what was originally just a research paper, is now going to be my attempt to persuade the school to change their policies and honor CWP because they're private and not bound by state laws which are in place for public universities.
  9. DixieTexian

    DixieTexian Well-Known Member

    I would try to look for everyone who was in the classrooms. While you probably wouldn't be able to pursue legal action if they didn't get hurt, it would still be nice for Washington to know if there was someone who would have been otherwise legally capable of stopping this tragedy.
  10. yhtomit

    yhtomit Well-Known Member

    DixieTexian wrote:
    Yes -- my phrasing was off, and that's closer to what I meant. Not only those who were killed or wounded, but those who escaped unharmed after the shooting started, or were harmed less directly (jumping from windows, etc).

    I know that the USA Today multi-story coverage today mentioned that one of the victims was a big outdoorsman; I don't think it said hunter, but I'll have to double-check.

  11. zoom6zoom

    zoom6zoom Well-Known Member

    Twenty of the fatalities were old enough to qualify for a Virginia permit.
  12. ATW525

    ATW525 Well-Known Member

    Corps of Cadets students might be a good place to start. There was one among the casualties, but he was only 20. I do recall hearing of another cadet who helped lead some students to safety in an office, though.
  13. DixieTexian

    DixieTexian Well-Known Member

    Can't you open carry in Virginia without a permit? Then everyone who was a victim of some sort could sue ifthey were of age.
  14. The_Shootist

    The_Shootist Well-Known Member


    We are not talking about just the victims. If you broaden your search to the BUILDING, the unscathed classes, I have to think there may be a possiblility of one in class that day.

    If he wasn't carrying, I'd be willing to be bet he could sue for "unecessary trauma" or something. If one of the VICTIMS had a CHL, I'd bet they could sue the school into oblivion - and rightfully so.
  15. Thain

    Thain Well-Known Member

    I fully, fully, support this effort and will gladly send a check to any legal fund...

    But, I'm highly doubtful the case will win. The Nanny State philosophy is pretty deeply entrenched.
  16. shc1

    shc1 Well-Known Member

    Can't you open carry in Virginia without a permit? Then everyone who was a victim of some sort could sue ifthey were of age.

    Yes open carry is legal here in VA.
    VA Tech does not allow firearms however.
    I guess the shooter didn’t read that part. You have to remember our authorities don’t want anyone to get hurt.:banghead:
  17. stevemis

    stevemis Well-Known Member

    Anyone in one of the classrooms who survived should be entitled to bring suit. The survivors of this incident saw their friends and classmates slaughtered right before their own eyes and walked or ran through dozens of pools of blood (or a single gigantic pool) to safety. I can only imagine witnessing and surviving an event of this nature would have a profoundly negative effect on one's psyche.

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