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Cheapest Powder for 9mm and 223 loads?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by TheSaint, Apr 21, 2013.

  1. thump_rrr

    thump_rrr Active Member

    Nov 7, 2010
    The North Country
    Even though I know that the difference per round is negligible I still cringe having to pay $47.99/Lb. for Vihtavuori N320 when I can buy Titegroup for $22.00/Lb.

    The first powder I ever purchased was N320.
    There wasn't enough difference for me to need to drive to the other end of town to buy it.
  2. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator

    Nov 20, 2006
    I have a 4 pounder of N310, N320, and N340. I intend to buy a 4 pounder of 3N37 soon. Great stuff. Yes, it costs a bit more.

    Of course I also have a 4 pounder of AA #2 & Universal, and a 5 pounder of 700X as well. Looking to buy a 4 pounder of 2400 soon as well. Or when I can find it at least.

    I want to try 20/28 (For pistols), but even though it is in stock a couple of places, I need to buy more than one pound to spread out the hazmat.
  3. BullfrogKen

    BullfrogKen Moderator Emeritus

    Jul 28, 2005
    Lewisberry, PA
    You'll enjoy that 3N37. I've used it in 9mm, 9x23, & 38 Super.
  4. bds

    bds Elder

    Jan 10, 2010
    Northwest Coast
    BTW, I did the cost calculations based on Powder Valley's current posted pricing for 8 lbs of Bullseye/Promo/Titegroup/W231/HP-38 and 4 lbs of N320 with HazMat and shipping factored in.
  5. Clark

    Clark Senior Member

    Jan 3, 2003
    Where I5 meets the rain forest
    3N37 can be beat in performance in 9mm only by Power Pistol, and that is in reality.
    In load books 3N37 is the top... per "Vihtavuori first edition" 1994.

    But the best thing about 3N37 in 9mm is low flash.... just in case you a shooting in the dark.
  6. hentown

    hentown Participating Member

    May 13, 2012
    If you can find WC844 in stock, I'd suggest that you buy as much as you can afford, even if you've never loaded a round, but intend to load a lot of .223s. I'm a class 6 manufacturer and a friend of mine who's also a class 6 manufacturer and I both use 844, exclusively, for .223 reloading.

    If a better deal comes along, buy it.
  7. TheSaint

    TheSaint Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    The People's Republik Of Kommiefornia
    Wow, tons of great responses on here. Thank you so much guys for being an invaluable resource to this rookie reloader. My hat's off to you.

    To address your points:

    ArchAngelCD, good deal and thanks for the heads up. I was planning on experimenting with those powders if they became available again, but they weren't my only option. At least with your data I have something more to work off of.

    Assuming you are far more advanced in the science of reloading than I am, have even you (or anyone else here who is a vet of reloading?) ever considered making your own personal defense rounds, or does even the vast majority of reloaders stick with factory ammo for that purpose? I'm currently using the Critical Defense rounds from Hornady, and have read fairly good things overall from them.

    Also, thank you bds for all the work you've been doing in the "components for sale" thread. I'm trying my best to be patient, but none of my backorders from any vendor have come in yet, and I don't want to splurge on paying for pricey factory ammo until then. I guess I'll continue to sit at home and enjoy THR and skip range time until something shows up. Also, thanks for the heads's up on the VV powders. To make the shipping and hazmat worth it, I'll just wait until more 1lb bottles are in stock somewhere and try a variety of them out before going "whole hog" on an 8lb jug. I figure the 8 lb jugs I have on backorder through MidSouth if they don't work out too well for me, I'll just put on consignment at my LGS. From what I've heard though, they've worked pretty well for most folks.

    Yup, I'm not going to go on any buying spree. Sooner or later things have to improve.

    Also, I'll to find an old-timer to mentor me locally. That's a great suggestion and one I'll certainly follow-up with.

    Everyone else, thanks for all the additional advice. I'll just have to keep scouring the forums for when more components become available. I'm already on a "watch list" at my LGS if anything comes in, they have my phone number. Sooner or later the supplies will become available again. Once more, thank you so much for all the help! :D

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