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Checking the buyer without the gun. I could buy that.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by gdcpony, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. gdcpony

    gdcpony Well-Known Member

    Finally, an idea I could jump on board with. So long as this would replace the broken system we have now. The idea could use some tweaking as the thread posts say, but a variation of this could be used rather effectively I think.


  2. firesky101

    firesky101 Well-Known Member

    Perhaps rolling it in with other things that required background checks. I would not want a registry of gun owners any more than guns.
  3. JonnyGringo

    JonnyGringo Well-Known Member

    More of the same: "Your papers please." No thanks.
  4. Ragnar Danneskjold

    Ragnar Danneskjold Well-Known Member

    That doesn't solve the inherent problem of background checks. There's still a "can buy guns" group and a "can't buy guns" group, and the government is still in charge of who fits into what group. That's tyrannical.
  5. Texan Scott

    Texan Scott Well-Known Member

    So instead of leading to a registry of who owns which guns, it just leads to a registry of who owns guns?

    No. I refuse.
  6. gc70

    gc70 Well-Known Member

    22 states already issue documents (permits or licenses to purchase, possess, or carry firearms) that qualify as alternatives to NICS checks. The states issue the documents for terms up to 5 years.
  7. blkbrd666

    blkbrd666 Well-Known Member

    I would prefer that if you have been issued a drivers license, you must own at least one gun...or if you own property...or if you are a citizen. What I would REALLY like is for all the antis to be forced to own a gun. They want to push their crap on me, so I would like to cram a little down their throat for a change.

    I feel better now.
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2013
  8. gdcpony

    gdcpony Well-Known Member

    My CCW does in OH. I like it. I wish it worked nation wide as I am stationed in NC right now.

    I know this is no perfect solution, but we will never get rid of background checks. It just won't happen. Sorry. However, if I can be cleared for a period, say even a year, to buy whatever firearms (or not buy), then it actually works more to my benefit than the current system. It would track those "eligible to purchase" not actually purchasers. It is a true compromise as they would be giving up the forms currently maintained that have a purchaser linked to a firearm at an FFL.
  9. Isaac-1

    Isaac-1 Well-Known Member

    If were going to have universal background checks, why not put a flag on drivers licesnses that says this person has passed a background check.
  10. gdcpony

    gdcpony Well-Known Member

    I think that was listed in that thread as an option. Wouldn't take much.
  11. gdcpony

    gdcpony Well-Known Member

    Here it is.
  12. Ragnar Danneskjold

    Ragnar Danneskjold Well-Known Member

    Well those all sound like really fantastic ways to streamline oppression and turn rights into privileges efficiently. I'm sure our benevolent leaders will eat it up.
  13. MErl

    MErl Well-Known Member

    find a way to make criminals follow any such system and I'd consider it.
  14. locnload

    locnload Well-Known Member

    Please remember that the people dreaming up this stuff, the people you want to "compromise" with are not at all concerned with our convienience, privacy, or desire to make the process as fast and inexpnsive as possible. They hate the fact that you want to buy a gun at all and any pretense of giving a dam about how it affects us is only syrup to make the poison go down easier. :fire:
  15. avalys

    avalys Member

    I would not mind such a system. I would like a way to sell a gun privately without worrying about whether the guy just got out of prison for armed robbery.

    I don't see a problem with a gun "buyer's license". It doesn't prove you own any guns, just that you considered it at one point.
  16. Ragnar Danneskjold

    Ragnar Danneskjold Well-Known Member

    So if you're worried, don't sell.
  17. gdcpony

    gdcpony Well-Known Member

    I see that, but I am thinking of a way that allows us to stick it to them in a way as well. They want all guns registered. That is the real meaning behind private party checks. They think it would force the registration. This way they don't get anything. They get at most a list of people who "may" have bought a gun, but who knows which type.

    Of course this is dependent on getting it through that way. That I think is the problem. But if we see the registration (my worst fear) going through, this may alter the game.
  18. tgzzzz

    tgzzzz Active Member

    find a way to make criminals follow any such system and I'd consider it.

    Me too. There's just no reason for govt to know who has what other than confiscation.
  19. rd_zzyzx

    rd_zzyzx Active Member

    Make the database of felons public. Someone tries to buy a gun from me, I log in, look them up. I can do it. Government doesn't need to be involved. Just provide the data. Simple.
  20. guitarguy314

    guitarguy314 Well-Known Member

    Why does anyone need to check anything? I'm insulted every time a gun shop has to call NICS when I buy a gun. I'm not a criminal, and until/unless I do something that makes me a criminal it shouldn't be anyone's business what, how many, or how much I buy.

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