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Chinese arms exports 'fuelling civil wars'

Discussion in 'Legal' started by K-Romulus, Jun 14, 2006.

  1. K-Romulus

    K-Romulus Participating Member

    Dec 31, 2003
    Somewhere in Monkey County, MD
    I figured with all the UN Arms Conference threads going, this particular issue needs a stand-alone discussion.

    Groups like IANSA claim that "lax" US gun laws are the cause of crime in countries like Canada, Mexico, and Columbia. :confused:

    The solution? A binding UN small arms "Agreement" for imposing UK/AUS-modeled domestic gun controls (despite the denial of such by the factually-challenged folk at the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence: http://www.csgv.org/document.cfm?documentID=317)

    However, it seems the PRC will be eager to put a "special something" in the IANSA/UN punch bowl if UN countries do sign on to such an "Agreement":


    The entire Amnesty International report is interesting reading and can be found here: http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGASA170302006

    A broader report on international arms smuggling can be found here:
  2. mrmeval

    mrmeval Participating Member

    Oct 2, 2004
    Greenwood, Indiana
    The market will decide, ban it and it becomes more profitable.

    Fixing the social problems will cure war and no one's compentent to do that for someone else.

    I figure in another two or three centuries the areas that are now at war will be civilized or we'll have gotten tired of it and shipped them off to a martian prison. I'm mostly concerned with keeping their toxic people away from me and mine.
  3. longeyes

    longeyes member

    Dec 25, 2002
    True West...Hotel California
    China will be given a pass, just as they were with the Kyoto Protocol. This is their century, thanks to the plutocrats in the West.
  4. Tom Bri

    Tom Bri Member

    Apr 10, 2003
    Rockford Illinois
    Full of bull. Guns don't cause or start or contribute to civil wars or any other kind. Are there any more wars, murder, crime now than in past ages before guns existed? Stupid people or liers tell these stories. Human beings just like to fight. Until we get a new type of human wars aren't going to just stop happening.
  5. AJAX22

    AJAX22 Participating Member

    Nov 9, 2005
    I have to agree with tom, take away the guns and they'll use machettes on eacheother. If anything, guns make the deaths of the victims less painfull. But they don't increase the overall numbers.
  6. LAK

    LAK Senior Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    Firearms certainly represent some of the mechanical tools of civil wars, revolutions, insurgencies etc. But simply making even a vast number of firearms "available" is not going to do anything.

    These upheavals have some common basic requirements before they can even get off the ground. They must be instigated, planned, organized, funded and sustained with an infrastructure and propaganda. And a big pile of money.

    No small understaking, and historically are rarely spontaneous uprisings - rather they are instigated for a geo-political purpose. It could be to destabilize a country, wreck it's economy, because it has defied the status quo. Or it could be a simple matter of divide and conquer over an otherwise resilient populace who might be an otherwise tough nut to crack.

    I would speculate that most revolutions, civil wars - and deaths - in modern history have been the direct result of the instigating criminals that run the United Nations since it's inception.



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