Hkmp5sd
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And now you know why I have never seen an episode of the TV version of Stargate or any other show in which Richard Dean Anderson participates.
Colonel O'Neil (Richard Anderson) is still an anti...
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Are you talking about that Eric something or other guy that did Cover shot I think it was? The theme song was "I need a Hero."
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John Erik Hexum
Bryan "font of useless knowledge" P.
Is that the same guy that was in Voyagers? The time traveling movie in the early 80's?
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John Erik Hexum
Bryan "font of useless knowledge" P.
Is that the same guy that was in Voyagers? The time traveling movie in the early 80's?
Maaaaaaaaan. I don't watch it regularly, but I always loved it when I did watch. O'Neill was my favorite character too. Now I'll only see "anti-gun hypocritical moron" when I look at it.
Another piece of entertainment ruined for me. Anybody wanna tell me Tom Hanks is an anti now?
Another piece of entertainment ruined for me. Anybody wanna tell me Tom Hanks is an anti now?
MrAcheson
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Last I checked Hanks was a hardline Democrat and almost certainly votes anti.
Walking Wounded
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Bah - to hell with the whole damn entertainment industry. Shoot your television
I am a big fan of the Stargate series. Many of the "cool" movies I like are full of anti gun idiots even though I still watch them. If it is good I will watch it, if I watch something else chances are there will be antigunners on it too...
mohican
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I don't pay much attention to it
For me, Stargate is almost unwatchable
SciFi made a big mistake, IMO, when they pulled FarScape instead of Stargate
SciFi channel, Imo is like the X-Files
Started off strong
Turned sour trying to appeal to the flake crowd
That is all
For me, Stargate is almost unwatchable
SciFi made a big mistake, IMO, when they pulled FarScape instead of Stargate
SciFi channel, Imo is like the X-Files
Started off strong
Turned sour trying to appeal to the flake crowd
That is all
The_Antibubba
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It's not the actor, it's the acting
It's discouraging to know that an actor on a good show you enjoy is against something you believe in. But look at this particular show for just a moment.
First, as others have pointed out, the use of guns is fairly realistic (for a scifi show), and are obvious and appreciated. The portrayal of armed good guys up against a godlike enemy is a positive one. The weapons are neither maligned nor glorified; they are necessary tools in a dangerous line of work.
Second, the treatment and portrayal of military personnel is as balanced and fair as I've ever seen on a series. The "Army guys" aren't gung-ho buffoons. General Hammond is a fantastic mix of logical, strategic thinking, and caring for his people. And I can't think of a more balanced, competent female soldier/scientist as Major Carter. She's utterly professional, brilliant, has very human feelings for the Major (which she won't act on because it would be out of line). She comes to the rescue of the others at least as often as the other way around.
These people are a subtle recruiting video. I wish I had cable.
If RDA were working his "guns are bad" mojo into the show, it would be different. But this show is as pro-2A as anything out there, the writing and situations are fresh and creative, and if I'm ever anywhere where I can watch it, I will.
There are so many worse examples out there. We can't afford to lose sight of the big picture because of a minor irritation.
It's discouraging to know that an actor on a good show you enjoy is against something you believe in. But look at this particular show for just a moment.
First, as others have pointed out, the use of guns is fairly realistic (for a scifi show), and are obvious and appreciated. The portrayal of armed good guys up against a godlike enemy is a positive one. The weapons are neither maligned nor glorified; they are necessary tools in a dangerous line of work.
Second, the treatment and portrayal of military personnel is as balanced and fair as I've ever seen on a series. The "Army guys" aren't gung-ho buffoons. General Hammond is a fantastic mix of logical, strategic thinking, and caring for his people. And I can't think of a more balanced, competent female soldier/scientist as Major Carter. She's utterly professional, brilliant, has very human feelings for the Major (which she won't act on because it would be out of line). She comes to the rescue of the others at least as often as the other way around.
These people are a subtle recruiting video. I wish I had cable.
If RDA were working his "guns are bad" mojo into the show, it would be different. But this show is as pro-2A as anything out there, the writing and situations are fresh and creative, and if I'm ever anywhere where I can watch it, I will.
There are so many worse examples out there. We can't afford to lose sight of the big picture because of a minor irritation.
KaceCoyote
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Farscape got pulled because the production company went bankrupt. Sci-fi is AS WE SPEAK shopping for a new production company to restart it. Apparently they have all the actors on contract STILL.
Stargate RAWKS. Anyone see how carter moved on to an M4 now? Yeewoo!
Stargate RAWKS. Anyone see how carter moved on to an M4 now? Yeewoo!
Give me a break. All he says is below, obviously to a question asked about all the gunplay but the question is not aired:
"You know we are, after all in the airforce, and we weild those things. But I'm not a proponent of guns at all, quite the opposite. But yeah, you know there is a running joke about shooting any one of the larger pieces we have in there, is that everybody tends to get "wood". It may be balsa, but it's definitely wood... {smiles}"
This is not a huge antigun statement, and none of it was said in a typical antigunner venomous way. If anything he pretty well admits he and everyone else really enjoys shooting the guns...
I am unable to find the other supposedly antigun comment from the lead guy on the new show. All I see of him about weapons is a quick single line about getting to carry big artillery (with a shot of him with a SAW) and the comment that he probably needs a bigger gun after saying how he's killed a number of the new enemies on the show, but they keep coming back to life. Neither is in anyway anti and makes no slam whatsoever with no implication of anykind. Perhaps I've missed the comment someone referred to...
I wish RDA wasn't an anti, but the show has great gunhandling most of the time, good special effects, good storylines most of the time, good characters, etc. It's the best scifi show on nowadays. As for cancelling Farscape, I gotta say the Muppets in Space isn't missed around here, I never was able to get into that show... I'd rather watch Stargate or Firefly anyday of the week, now there's one that didn't deserve cancelling, Firefly... New movie coming out for it though.
"You know we are, after all in the airforce, and we weild those things. But I'm not a proponent of guns at all, quite the opposite. But yeah, you know there is a running joke about shooting any one of the larger pieces we have in there, is that everybody tends to get "wood". It may be balsa, but it's definitely wood... {smiles}"
This is not a huge antigun statement, and none of it was said in a typical antigunner venomous way. If anything he pretty well admits he and everyone else really enjoys shooting the guns...
I am unable to find the other supposedly antigun comment from the lead guy on the new show. All I see of him about weapons is a quick single line about getting to carry big artillery (with a shot of him with a SAW) and the comment that he probably needs a bigger gun after saying how he's killed a number of the new enemies on the show, but they keep coming back to life. Neither is in anyway anti and makes no slam whatsoever with no implication of anykind. Perhaps I've missed the comment someone referred to...
I wish RDA wasn't an anti, but the show has great gunhandling most of the time, good special effects, good storylines most of the time, good characters, etc. It's the best scifi show on nowadays. As for cancelling Farscape, I gotta say the Muppets in Space isn't missed around here, I never was able to get into that show... I'd rather watch Stargate or Firefly anyday of the week, now there's one that didn't deserve cancelling, Firefly... New movie coming out for it though.
There was a great line by O'Neil in one episode where he was demonstrating the difference in offensive capabilities of a staff weapon and his squad's assault rifles: (holds up staff) "This is a weapon of intimidation." (holds up rifle) "This is a weapon of war." (IIRC, Major Carter then proceeds to surgically cut a large hanging log in two with the rifle on full auto).
papercut
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It's the only TV show that the Air Force even semi-officially sanctions, for that exact reason. Two real Air Force Chiefs of Staff have even done brief cameos on the show, as well as a few other occasional appearances by real Air Force personnel.
The one thing that irritates me about her character in the show has to do with the character's history. In the beginning, we learn that 1) she has a doctorate in physics, and 2) that she spent time as a combat fighter pilot in a combat zone (IIRC, the first Persian Gulf war).The_Antibubba barely concealed his lust for a certain actress:
And I can't think of a more balanced, competent female soldier/scientist as Major Carter. She's utterly professional, brilliant, has very human feelings for the Major (which she won't act on because it would be out of line). She comes to the rescue of the others at least as often as the other way around.
Quite a career jump, there. And to only still be a captain after her combat tour and getting a Ph.D. in some area of advanced physics? It's almost like the show's producers started by thinking that since it's the AF, everyone must learn how to fly a plane at first. This is the Air Force, not the Marine Corps. When would she have time to study muon decay rates and the gravitational effect of the Abell 2218 cluster? In between missile shots? I don't know why, but I've never been able to quite get over what I consider a producer's flub in "personal development" for Carter. (How likely is that? Go ahead, military folks, tell me I'm wrong.)That was the episode "The Warrior".
True, but I at least give him credit for supporting military veterans.
(If you follow that link, scroll down to "Hanks praises U.S. soldiers in Iraq.")
KLR
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In that episode, she talks about flying in hostile airspace. I don't think it was as a pilot, though. The only one wearing pilot wings is Hammond.
Cosmoline
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Re. the IMPORTANT news:
The current heads of Sci Fi had a big falling out with the people who make "Farscape." Mostly over budgets. Sci Fi likes lean and mean productions with as little money on FX as possible. "Farscape" budgets grew to ST:TNG size and Sci Fi pulled the plug. They're still angry, and while they run SG:SG1 episodes nearly 24/7 Farscape is relegated to the two or three AM slot
But don't give up hope! Fan pressure has resulted in peace accords and Moya et al are coming back in the form of a new mini-series called "Farscape: The Peacekeep Wars" Filming has been going on for several months now.
John: I'm not a warrior.
Noranti: You carry a weapon.
John: Second Amendment!
The current heads of Sci Fi had a big falling out with the people who make "Farscape." Mostly over budgets. Sci Fi likes lean and mean productions with as little money on FX as possible. "Farscape" budgets grew to ST:TNG size and Sci Fi pulled the plug. They're still angry, and while they run SG:SG1 episodes nearly 24/7 Farscape is relegated to the two or three AM slot
But don't give up hope! Fan pressure has resulted in peace accords and Moya et al are coming back in the form of a new mini-series called "Farscape: The Peacekeep Wars" Filming has been going on for several months now.
John: I'm not a warrior.
Noranti: You carry a weapon.
John: Second Amendment!
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Uhhh... Why do you all keep saying "Hollywood" this and "Hollywood" that?
SG-1, IIRC, is filmed in Canada, produced and funded by a Canadian company. Where's the harm?
SG-1, IIRC, is filmed in Canada, produced and funded by a Canadian company. Where's the harm?
mephisto
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Screw the celebs. Why do people care what they think? They live in a world of fantasy and bloated egos.
KLR
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Indeed.
jason10mm
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SciFi is actually rolling out quite a few new shows this season, not only Stargate: Atlantis, but also the Farscape mini, Earthsea mini, and a Battlestar Galactica series.
I saw the comments made by RDA. No big deal, IMHO, as it doesn't affect his portrayal of O'Neill. Just like Michael Gross' personal politics does not affect my love of the Burt Gummer character. I won't vote for them in any public office though!!
The new guy (Sheppard?) on the Atlantis show was just making a joke, I think (about guns and small penises). In fact, I'm a little disappointed about how cavalier the new crew is, they were all talking about stunts and special effects, none seemed interested (or even knowledgable) about the science fiction aspect of the show. I find the SG series to be one of the better grounded SF shows (technobabble is kept to a minimum, they retry tactics succesful in the past, new tech is embraced and USED) and would like to see some evidence that Atlantis will carry on the torch.
I saw the comments made by RDA. No big deal, IMHO, as it doesn't affect his portrayal of O'Neill. Just like Michael Gross' personal politics does not affect my love of the Burt Gummer character. I won't vote for them in any public office though!!
The new guy (Sheppard?) on the Atlantis show was just making a joke, I think (about guns and small penises). In fact, I'm a little disappointed about how cavalier the new crew is, they were all talking about stunts and special effects, none seemed interested (or even knowledgable) about the science fiction aspect of the show. I find the SG series to be one of the better grounded SF shows (technobabble is kept to a minimum, they retry tactics succesful in the past, new tech is embraced and USED) and would like to see some evidence that Atlantis will carry on the torch.
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