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current taurus revolvers

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by mec, Jul 10, 2008.

  1. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    rimfire and centerfire small and medium frame revolvers including trackers
    How are the current ones doing in the areas of
    1. basic function and reliability
    2. overall fit
    3. cylinder/bore alignment
    4. Light strikes
    5 lock malfunctions
    6. durability.

    when quality issues arrise, are they willing/able to fix them.
  2. machinisttx

    machinisttx Well-Known Member

    Well, Taurus has always been hit or miss by all accounts. Provided you inspect the individual gun thoroughly, as you should with any new or used firearm, you aren't likely to run into problems.

    Taurus customer service is hit or miss as well. Some people have gotten excellent service, while others had to wait months to get their gun back. Sometimes the gun was fixed, sometimes not. Sometimes the original problem was fixed, but a new one created.
  3. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    that's the historic story on it alright. I once sho a tracker in 17 hrm and the thing functioned well and wuld group all seven in about an 1nch at 50 yards (scope)
    A friend likes the trackers in all calibers but says they lock up with the heavier magnum loads. he may be using the old 40,000+psi reloading data. I'm not sure. Says they are smooth and accurate with moderate loads.

    I know one guy who experienced light strikes with one of the closed frame, hammerless revolvers as is not unusual with the smith and wessons of the same size. I've never heard of the hammer mounted "lock" self engaging.
  4. janobles14

    janobles14 Well-Known Member

    own 3 taurus wheelies. all been great with no problems
  5. gtmerkley

    gtmerkley member

    I want the new 5mm one.
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2008
  6. Virginian

    Virginian Well-Known Member

    I have an old 431 and a brand new 605. Both are great in my opinion. I used to sell guns. Had a very good track record, and good experience with Taurus service.
  7. MCgunner

    MCgunner Well-Known Member

    See, this is how it's perpetuated. The trackers are LIGHT. You have to use a heavy roll crimp on a magnum caliber in such a light gun or you'll get the bullets pulling and causing problems as they impinge on the forcing cone. Now, if this was a Smith and Wesson, the owner would immediately suspect the loads. Being a Taurus and what with all the internet Taurus bashing out there, no, it's gotta be the gun.

    Whatever, I have three Taurus revolvers and all are great. Taurus really is no worse than the modern Smith and Wesson for being hit and miss. Smith has had their problems of recent. I can't speak for the customer service since I've never had to use it.
  8. baker437

    baker437 Member

    I have a 850 and 94 both work fine. Fit and finish is not perfect but very good.
  9. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    the guy knows about crimp jumping. what he has told me is that the gun bogs down, either from expansion of the stainless cylinder or gas ring with high pressure loads or some degree of case set back. Something of the sort caused S&W to reposition the gas rings on their early model 66s.
    The guy hasn't said but I suspect that he is still using the loads that were commonly listed in manuals a decade or so ago. 40-47,000 psi in contrast to the current industry standard of 35.
  10. MCgunner

    MCgunner Well-Known Member

    If it ain't jumping the crimp, I'd suspect set back of the brass/primer from the pressure. If he can fired .38s out of it or light mags after firing the hot stuff, it ain't the gun. If anything were expanding on the gun, it'd be permanent damage.
  11. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    I'd suspect that too though the model 66s did bog down due to temporary expansion of the gas ring due to heat. In any case, he finds the trackers in all calibers to be accurate and shootable. He also has a couple of 454 raging bulls which are accurate shooters and easy to handle. he was surprised to find his bulls -both circa 5.5" and 7.5" to be producing higher velocities than his ruger super redhawk in the same caliber
  12. MCgunner

    MCgunner Well-Known Member

    I've got 2 M66s, a 3" and a 4", but I generally don't run more'n a hundred rounds through them in a session and most of that is .38, generally. I've not seen problems with the heat expansion thing, but I suppose if I fired 100 rounds of hot mags out of it, it could happen, don't know. I've had 50 rounds of .357 through it in pretty short order and it gets pretty hot, though.

    The one thing that has impressed me is the accuracy of Taurus revolvers. My 4" nickled 66 is just amazing, tight little 1" clusters, as good as I can fire an iron sighted gun off the bench at 25 yards with .38 wadcutters and similar with magnums it likes. It's a bit more accurate than my old M19 and quite a bit more accurate than my old Security Six with the .38s. The 3" gun ain't far behind.

    My 4" gun gets carried when I'm out on a hike or down at my place checking things. The 3" gun gets carried concealed on occasion. My 2" M85SSUL sees a lot of carry, both pocket as primary and as back up in an ankle rig. That one I bought new. The two 66s I got at gun shows used and at SIGNIFICANT savings over any used Smith. The 4" nickeled gun cost me $197 and the 3" blued, an older gun, $180. The 4" gun was like new! Both guns are tigh and pefectly timed, very accurate. The 3" gun showed a lot of holster wear and had been fired a lot judging by the wear on the Pachmayr grip it had. But, you ain't touchin' a K frame Smith for that sort of money around here at least. To me, the Tauri are good guns and GREAT bargains over any Smith, used or new. If you're just a Smith collector or koolaid drinker, well, go with a Smith, but I'm a po boy who just likes to shoot. :D I gotta say, though, when it comes to accuracy, I've found Taurus second to none. The M66s have a ROUND forcing cone and a little more beef in the forcing cone area which makes me happy because I've had forcing cone problems on a K frame.
  13. Fat Boy

    Fat Boy Well-Known Member

    I recently acquired a Model 85, and checked it out thoroughly. After getting it to the house, I was checking it one more time, and snapped the cylinder shut rather abruptly. This resulted in a lock up, which I resolved by opening the cylinder again, and reclosing it. I know better than to snap the cylinder shut in that fashion; I don't know, maybe I was trying to fail the gun...my question; will all revolvers lock up like that if snapped shut in a hard fashion? Or is this indicative of some problem with this gun?

    Sorry, not to hijack the thread...but thought I would throw this in as it is relative to Taurus guns
  14. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    they fixed that a few months after the 66 came out. Guy just told me he went to a gun show in fredricksburg Tx. People were asking $ 650 for K 22s and one guy was halking an 8 3/8" 25 in .45 colt for $1600. another guy was trying to sell a nice early mod 29 for $450 but the dealers wanted to knock off 100 because he didn't have the box. He almost gave the guy his asking price for that. It appears that the earlier Smiths have really taken off in some peoples estimation anyway.

    The lockup. It doens't sound usual but I'd shoot it a bit and see if anything else happens before even worrying about it.
  15. dairycreek

    dairycreek Well-Known Member

    I've owned 6 Taurus revos over the last few years. Those that were good were okay guns. All were NIB and three of them had to go back to the factory for major repair. As others have said in this thread Taurus quality control as well as customer service is purely a hit or miss situation. In my personal experience I found customer service to be absolutely terrible. So much so, that I just won't buy Taurus products any more. Life is way too short for that kind of hassle.:barf:
  16. MCgunner

    MCgunner Well-Known Member

    Mmm, sounds good since mine are later ones. My 4" has the newer transfer bar lockwork, though it doesn't have the hammer mounted safety lock which my new in '97 M85 has. I'm figuring early 90s for that one, mid-late 80s for the blued one. Just a guess.

    Yeah, old pre-lock Smiths down here are out of sight. To get a decent basic M10, figure on 400 bucks. I'll risk the hassle. I don't have the green. I haven't had a problem with Taurus, though, not at all. But, I only have 3. If I bought one without checking it out (that will never happen) and it had to go back, well, I'd send it back. I don't need the thing back in 2 days. :rolleyes:

    I did take a chance on the 3" gun, was wanting a 3" gun, though. The crane was loose and timing on a couple of cylinders was off. I talked the guy off 200 to 180, decided if I couldn't figure it out, I'd find out if Taurus customer service was as bad as some seem to think. Well, turned out when I got it home, someone had put the side plate back on and put the long screw that's supposed to impinge on the crane in the wrong hole. That left the crane WAY loose. I put it back together right, tight as a drum, perfect timing. :D Some guy out there is probably cussing that Taurus for being crap. Couldn't be the moron that put the wrong screws in the wrong holes, eh? Go figure. :rolleyes:
  17. JT'sDad

    JT'sDad Well-Known Member

    Had a Taurus 2" 94, great little gun.
    Currently looking for an older 3" model 941.
  18. MedWheeler

    MedWheeler Well-Known Member

    I don't know about the newer guns, but I enjoy and trust well my Model 66, purchased in 1987. Only issue I had was the ejector rod shooting loose (took more than ten years to happen, though), locking the cylinder closed. Easy fix.
  19. Phydeaux642

    Phydeaux642 Well-Known Member

    I have been looking for a good .22 revolver to plink with and haven't been able to let loose of the $500+ for a used Smith at this time. I looked at a couple of Taurus .22 wheelguns today and I had to pass because, even though they were priced right, they must have had a 100 pound trigger.:what: I am sure they would have functioned just fine, but I like to shoot DA and those two just didn't seem like they would work for me. I was a little bummed.
  20. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    all my comments about the model 66 were in ref: the Smith K frame. It was , I believe, the first stainless magnum and the heat expanding gas ring was a problem that was corrected early.

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