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Cut down Mosin-Nagant

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by kestak, Mar 27, 2009.

  1. kestak

    kestak Well-Known Member


    I am sure it will go under the stupid questions. But just for the heck of it:

    I saw a picture of a Mosin-Nagant with the barrell and the stock cut. It was looking almost like a black powder handgun.

    It is called a Obrez : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNFsUvh078I

    If you do not have a shoulder stock on it (you cut it off, can you legally cut the barrell under the 16" measure of a bolt-action rifle? It becomes a handgun. Not a very ergonomic one, but one still. Or because it was a rifle, it can't be done legally?

    Thank you
  2. ramis

    ramis Well-Known Member

  3. dmazur

    dmazur Well-Known Member

    In addition to complying with NFA, you need to check your state laws. Some states do not permit SBR's even if you jump through the federal hoops...
  4. PTK

    PTK Well-Known Member

    Yes, it involved a $200 tax as an SBR, it's mine, it's a range toy, and it was worth every single penny.
  5. panrobercik

    panrobercik Well-Known Member

    Insurgents did this to rifles during WW2. The cutting was done with a hacksaw and a new crown would be made with a file. It made impressive exit wounds.
  6. elmerfudd

    elmerfudd Well-Known Member

    You can convert a pistol to a rifle legally, but if you convert a rifle to a pistol then you have to get the NFA tax stamp.
  7. Kind of Blued

    Kind of Blued Well-Known Member

    Slapping a buttstock on a pistol (making it a rifle) without a tax stamp is illegal, so no, not really.
  8. WardenWolf

    WardenWolf member

    That's honestly one of the meanest hoglegs you could have.
  9. SaxonPig

    SaxonPig Well-Known Member

    KoB- You have to add the 16" barrel as well to make it legal. Kits with a 16" barrel and buttstock to fit the 1911 have been around for many years. You are correct in that just adding the stock is a no-no due to minimum barrel length requirements.
  10. elmerfudd

    elmerfudd Well-Known Member

    It's only illegal if the barrel or overall length is too short in which case you have converted a pistol into an illegal rifle. It's not an illegal rifle because you started with a pistol though. It's illegal because the barrel is too short and it hasn't been OK-d by the ATF.
  11. PTK

    PTK Well-Known Member


    It's been done since 1891, for these rifles. First real recorded incidents (of cut down rifles like this) involved the Crimean war. :D

    Mike the Wolf

    Yes, yes it is.
  12. panrobercik

    panrobercik Well-Known Member

    PTK, have you actually shot a solid object to see the devastation done by an unstabilized bullet ? I heard stories from old Polish people who used those during WW2 that they would make an instant kill at close distance and leave giant exit wounds

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