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CZ SS guide rod

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by j1979, Sep 8, 2008.

  1. j1979

    j1979 Well-Known Member

    How many of you CZ guys are using a SS guide rod in your guns? I just put my 14lb spring in and the plastic one is all bent looking and Im thinking about getting the steel one form ghostholster, or am I just thinking too much? Thanks
  2. atblis

    atblis Well-Known Member

    Don't waste your money. The plastic ones work just fine.
  3. hags

    hags Well-Known Member

    You'll get nowhere with a common sense approach like that.:D
  4. burningsquirrels

    burningsquirrels Well-Known Member

    plastic ones work fine, just like the one in our uspsa limited-minor and pin/plink night sp-01. leave it.
  5. stevemis

    stevemis Well-Known Member

    Agreed with everyone else. Plastic is fine. I've got a bunch of CZ's that get shot often and hard... none of my plastic guides are worn yet. Remember this rod's only job is to hold the recoil spring in place. There aren't any significant forces applied to it.

    A stainless steel rod might be harder than the pistol's frame. This is especially the case in alloy pistols like the P01. Also, in shorter pistols (like the P01) I think the rod will tilt a little during cycling. Sounds like a recipe for trouble.

    My Colt Mustang PocketLite has a plastic rod. The P01's have plastic rods. Both guns are alloy frame. I suspect CZ and Colt are doing this for a reason.

    If you EVER wear out a rod, CZ will probably mail you a new one. They might want your old one so they can frame it and hang it on the wall in the office, though.

    It ain't broke. Don't mess with it.
  6. j1979

    j1979 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the help
  7. NG VI

    NG VI Well-Known Member

    My 40B has a steel guide rod, my 97B (bought very gently used) came with a Jack Ash steel guide rod and the original, plus an 18# recoil spring, and my Kadet Kit has a steel guide rod because I lost the original and CZ-USA has still not sent me the replacement I ordered months ago.

    But my PCR still has its plastic guide rod.
  8. 1 old 0311

    1 old 0311 member

    At czshooters I think it was Viking that posted pictures of 5-6 broken/worn/trashed plastic rods. For the casual shooter you don't need a stainless rod. If you shoot a lot, or carry, it does give you piece of mind.
    I use them in all my CZ's, including the Kadet.
  9. schmeky

    schmeky Well-Known Member

    I have about 3K through my SP-01, about the same through my 97. My G17 has about 2K through it. All have the plastic guide rods. No problems.

    I think the majority of autos now use plastic guide rods. The manufacturers know what they're doing.
  10. BlindJustice

    BlindJustice Well-Known Member

    YEah the manufactueres are saving money

    ANd what kinda argument or knowledge of the
    mechanics justifies a SS guide rod beating on the
    frame? The guide rod matches up with forged
    barrel which makes imo the plastic guide rod in a
    heavy use - heavy in single range sessions = heat
    suspect to ME. and the cost is so low anyway,
    pretty silly not to swap for one

  11. Zesty

    Zesty Well-Known Member

    My CZ75b in .40 has a metal(stainless?) rod, and my SP01 has a plastic one.

    The 2 things I prefer with the 75b are the trigger, and the fact it has a metal guide rod. I'm sure there's a reason for it but in my ignorance I would sleep better at night with metal.
  12. atblis

    atblis Well-Known Member

    I run all my CZs with stock spring weights, stock guide rods, and factory mags. They flat out work. Never had a guide rod fail. I have minimal/no problems.

    It'd be "pretty silly" to start fixing things that aint broke.

    I'd wager that they're getting damaged during assembly/disassembly/cleaning.
  13. armoredman

    armoredman Well-Known Member

    I have put thousands of rounds through my PO1, no damage to the guide rod. I had a SS guide rodin my dearly departed PCR, could never really tell any differance, but it also didn't do any harm. if you want one, get one, but it really isn't neccesary, as far as I can tell.
  14. bruss01

    bruss01 Well-Known Member

    Do the plastic rods work? Yes they do.

    Do the metal rods work better? No, not really.

    Do I insist on stainless guide rods in all my CZ's? Yes, I do!

    It doesn't have to be logical or rational. Does the stripe on a racing car make it go faster? No, but they still paint them on, don't they?

    I want the personal satisfaction and pride of ownership from having an all-steel pistol with no plastic parts. That's all.
  15. eerw

    eerw Well-Known Member

    just watch your guide rod..if the plastic starts peening away..get a new one or replace with a metal one. CZs come in all flavors..some have plastic, some have metal. doesn't hurt anything either way.
  16. Average Joe

    Average Joe Well-Known Member

    Plastic works just fine.
  17. everallm

    everallm Well-Known Member

    If you want to buy one do it, will you see practical advantages, unlikely.

    Remember the caveat on the web site

    Full length steel guide rod for the CZ 75/85 family
    These have been modified to fit in the Sp01, CZ 75 without further modification
    These may be a little awkward to install using the Flat Wire Spring
    We suggest purchasing the Wire Recoils Spring

    The Flat on the back of the guide rod needs to be aligned with the feet of the barrel for installation
    Slide must already have the hole drilled for long guide rod.

    So I would recommend giving them a call first and make sure you are good to go.
  18. HorseSoldier

    HorseSoldier Well-Known Member

    I have steel in my P-01 and the OEM plastic in my SP-01. Both have been 100% reliable. I went with the steel in the P-01 to get a bit more weight up on the nose for muzzle climb issues.
  19. skers69

    skers69 Well-Known Member

    I was kind of hung up on my PCR having a plasitc guide rod. It has been three years and an estimated 7000 rounds and I still have not gotten around to replacing it with the steal rod. Part me being lazy and part the rod not showing any wear and tear. Do what is best for you the cost is nominal.
  20. j1979

    j1979 Well-Known Member

    Im just gonna keep the plastic one unless it starts to give me problems.

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