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Dad Charged in Son's Mo. School Shooting (MO)

Discussion in 'Legal' started by K-Romulus, Oct 13, 2006.

  1. K-Romulus

    K-Romulus Well-Known Member

    Surprise, surprise . . . .NOT!


  2. migoi

    migoi Well-Known Member

    Gotta get me...


  3. Turkey Creek

    Turkey Creek Well-Known Member

    To be legal we all have to jump through the Feds hoops when we purchase a firearm- How in the hell did a felon come to have these?- Either the checking system doesn't work or he didn't bother and they should have him and perhaps those that sold him the guns for much more than this- Another reason why I have constantly said that felons forfit their right to firearms ownership upon convition- Leopards rarely change their spots-
  4. TallPine

    TallPine Well-Known Member

    Could someone fill me in ... is the Mac 90 a full-auto or just a semi-auto knockoff (of an AK?) ????
  5. Phenom

    Phenom Well-Known Member

    The Mak-90 is semi-auto only. Aside from Arsenal Inc they are/were the best AKs made.
  6. OldBillThundercheif

    OldBillThundercheif Well-Known Member

  7. TallPine

    TallPine Well-Known Member

    Okay, thanks :)

    I've been in a discussion on another forum, maintaining that the weapon used in this incident would not likely be a real AK47 ("assualt rifle" :rolleyes: )
  8. jnojr

    jnojr Well-Known Member

    The "gun show loophole".

    In most states, you can buy a firearm from another private party for cash with no background check.
  9. tulsamal

    tulsamal Well-Known Member

    Or his wife bought them for him.

    Or a friend or relative.

    Or maybe he bought them from the same guy where he buys his drugs.

    The thing that caught my eye on this story was that an AK fired once and jammed?! What the heck is up with that? It shouldn't matter if it was poorly maintained. They thrive on that stuff. The most likely thing is somehow operator error. The round in the chamber fired but then nothing from the magazine. So the kid loaded the mags wrong or somehow failed to lock the magazine into the well or maybe he had his hand on the right side of the receiver and obstructed the charging handle?

    Let's say that's true. For someone convicted of a _violent_ felony. But why does someone who is convicted of a _non-violent_ felony lose their gun rights for the rest of their lives? The problem is that "felony" used to mean VERY serious crime. But we have spend decades gradually increasing crimes that are classified as felonies. To the point where it seems like it is time to somehow change the law as regards felons and gun ownership.

  10. These "Leopards" Belong In Cages

    This is why I have always said that violent felons(or any felon who has used a weapon in the commission of a crime) should forfeit their freedom for life, or their life. The hoops created by these laws are useless, let alone unconstitutional. We are made to suffer in a failed attempt to control criminal behavior. All these hoops do is cause law abiding citizens to suffer as a consequence of someone else's bad behavior.


    Though we may still exercise our Right to Keep and Bear Arms after filling out a bunch of paperwork, the real issue is the unconstitutional infringement the paperwork represents. That is where the infringements upon our right began. Look what those infringements are today... B.E.Wood
  11. Jeff White

    Jeff White Moderator Staff Member

    tulsamal said;
    AK actions jam just like every other auto will. No firearm is 100% reliable. I have seen real AKs jam. I have seem M1 Garands jam. I say again, any auto can and will jam for any number of reasons.

    There are any number of ways a convicted felon could get a firearm without going through NICs. No system is foolproof just like no firearm is 100% reliable.

    The issue here isn't the gun or how the father came to be in possession of it. Guns exist in our society and as long as they do, there will be no foolproof way of keeping them out of the wrong hands.

    The issue everyone should be looking at is how a 13 year old boy could get so infatuated with a mass murder that he wanted to act out a copycat one.

    I think that our culture's facination with celeberty and the instant world wide fame that Dillon and Kliebold got was probably enough to make a troubled young man who probably didn't think much of himself think that would be a good way to make a statement and become famous.

    It's funny, continual coverage of the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon was deemed too troubling for the American public to endure, lest we get too much bloodlust towards our enemies, but the same self rightous media will splash headlines and cover stories about two teenage mass murderers for years after their crimes......

  12. 1911 guy

    1911 guy Well-Known Member

    Well said, Jeff.

    The media decries the actions, yet fills the kids heads with the idea day after day. I can liken it to an overly strict parent. Keep your kids too tightly reigned in and they'll go ape when they get the chance. Let them have some harmless fun now and again and they get it out of their system before the serious trouble comes up. Society today is the overbearing parent.
  13. carpettbaggerr

    carpettbaggerr Well-Known Member

    He's got a jammed gun, and people are still talking to him?

  14. Carpettbaggerr

    I like how your mind works.


    The underlying problem concerning the law that "allows" or "requires" us to get a permit is law that makes carrying a gun "unlawful" to begin with. It starts there, then laws are passed that create exceptions to the original law, to allow carry under certain conditions after you jump through a few hoops and pay a fee. It is that original law that is unconstitutional. Eliminate that original law, then there is no opportunity to require permits. B.E.Wood
  15. bluecowdawg

    bluecowdawg Well-Known Member

    Isn't there a law against felon's owning or purchasing firearms?:uhoh: Oh wait, maybe he broke the law

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