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dang airports!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by ballistic gelatin, Mar 11, 2003.

  1. ballistic gelatin

    ballistic gelatin Well-Known Member

    Is it just me or have the airports gone a little overboard with this whole sharp instrument confiscation thing? I have had to forfeit two swiss army pocket knives in the past year at the same airport. The knives were the small ones that fit on a keychain with one blade, one file, pair of scissors, tweezers and toothpick.

    [​IMG]:banghead: :cuss: :fire:
  2. El Tejon

    El Tejon Well-Known Member

    bg, but don't you FEEL safer?:(
  3. Spackler

    Spackler Well-Known Member

    If you knew that the first one was confiscated, why did you take another with you the next time?

    I have some knowledge of the screeners and their processes. The sentiment among those I know seems to be that it's a bit silly taking small swiss army knives and folding scissors from little old ladies. However, they don't make the rules, but just follow them.

    Looking at the photo that you attached, I can't imagine why somebody would think they carry a utility knife on the plane. What planet have they been living on for the past year-and-a-half?
  4. Azrael256

    Azrael256 Well-Known Member

    While I do think this "security" bit is a joke, you do kinda have to scratch your head wondering about the guy who tries to bring gardening tools on an airplane.
  5. STW

    STW Well-Known Member

    The article in our local paper that accompanied that picture said they even confiscated a trailer hitch from somebody. I know I feel naked with all I have to leave home when I fly now.

    I'm a bit anxious about the critical thinking skills of the folks in charge when they started taking company required multi-tools from UAL pilots. It seemingly hasn't dawned on somebody that the pilots don't need a knife to gain control of the airplane. :banghead:
  6. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    Its all about making Soccer Moms feel safer, not about actually preventing anything. What a joke.
  7. spacemanspiff

    spacemanspiff Senior Member

    no flame intended, but how is it that people still forget that they have items on their person that they KNOW airline security will take away from them?
    i have a sneaking suspicion that these same people are also the ones who "forget" that they have metal objects in their pockets and have to walk through the metal detector 3 or 4 times and empty 3 or 4 pockets before being able to proceed.

    how difficult is it while you are waiting in line at an airport checkpoint to get all your pockets searched and all change, keys, etc ready to dump into the tray and walk through without the *beep*? how difficult is it to put any item you KNOW wont make it through security in your luggage?

    like i said though, no flame intended. just dont take offense when i'm behind you in line and am grumbling about the 'idiot that cant figure out how this metal detector DETECTS METAL OBJECTS'...
  8. TallPine

    TallPine Well-Known Member

    This is why I won't fly anymore - I don't want to end up like Tom Hanks on some remote island without my Swiss army knife :)
  9. Russ

    Russ Well-Known Member

    They probably took those scissors of 80 year old ladies.
  10. TallPine

    TallPine Well-Known Member

    What did they suppose someone was going to do with the crescent wrench ...?
  11. dav

    dav Well-Known Member

    Diaper Pins?

    All the scissors I can kinda understand. Maybe. Even that crescent wrench in the bottom left. But that sure looks like a diaper safety pin just above it...
    Did they at least let the baby keep its diaper?
    Sheesh... :rolleyes:
  12. TarpleyG

    TarpleyG Well-Known Member

    If you really wanted to get a "knife" on board you could just buy one of those plastic jobbies you see at the gun shows and cram it in your undies. Do they really think they are stopping criminals with these tactics? No, just the regular Joe.

  13. jsalcedo

    jsalcedo Well-Known Member

    When I worked for a the MIS dept of a fast food chain
    all I had with me was my tool kit: cutters, wrenches, screwdriver,
    and software. Since I was running from airport to airport
    it would have been ridiculous for me to check a bag the size of a
    shaving kit and very likely it would be lost and I would have no tools for my job.

    Everyday I carrried box cutters and other sharp objects in my tool kit as needed with no problems. thankfully I ended my employment there just prior to 9/11. I guess all the techs have to check their bags now.
  14. DJJ

    DJJ Well-Known Member

    What are the things that look like plastic toothbrush holders? Like a plastic cylinder with a knob with a hole through it on one end? There's a yellow one center left, one red & one blue lower left, and two yellows & a blue upper right. There's also a white one, head only, right above the head of the crescent wrench, with what looks like a hypodermic needle sticking out.

    Don't tell me they're someone's insulin or epinephrine syringe! Will fed.gov take responsibility for someone's peanut allergy reaction or diabetic coma (don't answer that :rolleyes: )?
  15. ballistic gelatin

    ballistic gelatin Well-Known Member

    They're corkscrews. I actually did forget about my little swiss since it is always attached to my keys and they are in my pocket. I didn't remember til I emptied my pockets in the little basket. Then I was like...DOH!...and the guy saw it...bye bye little knife. Of course I stowed the spare swiss in the big suitcase and it was available when I picked up my bags from the baggage claim. You can transport knives as long as they're in a bag that is under the plane.
  16. DJJ

    DJJ Well-Known Member

  17. elnhez

    elnhez New Member

    I don't know how accurate this is, however, this morning I heard on the radio news a report regarding all the "weapons" that have been confiscated at airports.

    Although I don't recall all the items, most were similar to what we see in the above picture ...
    but they mentioned one that jumped out at me:

    a ten-inch circular saw. :what:

    now, we all know that power tools can be dangerous. especially, when supplied with power. but i don't recall ever seeing 110-vac outlets on an airplane. perhaps the danger would lie in flinging the blade like a (ninja) frizbee. of course, that would require a wrench to dissemble the blade from the saw, and we all know that wrences are verboten ...

    on the other hand, given today's feel-safe environment, what kind of yahoo would bring his power tools on an airplane?

    anyway, just thought that was kinda interesting.

    also: anyone see any golf tees in the photo? had a friend who was relieved of his shortly after 9-11. not that it surprised me, but that seemed quite a stretch. i did forget to ask him if they were plastic or wooden ... might make a difference. :rolleyes:
  18. J Miller

    J Miller Well-Known Member

    spacemanspiff said;
    I can't speek for any one else. But on every unfortunate occasion that I have had to go through a metal detector I always empty ALL my pockets, take of my glasses, and still I will set off the detector.
    I have no metal in my boots, only a small belt buckle. I'll still set them off. I tell the operators this before I ever walk through.
    They always disbelieve me. I don't know why this happens, but I'm fairly sure I would set it off if I walked through in my underwear.
    So in my case at least if your ever behind me, I'll let you have cuts.:D
  19. pax

    pax Well-Known Member

    Half the posts above are people asking "Why would anyone bring a _________ on an airplane?"

    Uh, folks, it used to be a free country.

    The scissors could be used (along with a stack of paper and some crayons) to entertain a small child. The box cutter could have been left in some workman's pocket, ditto leatherman tools and screwdrivers. The garden spade could have been part of some young woman's housewarming present to her sister who was going to meet her at the other end of her flight ...

    Every one of those items has a peaceful and useful purpose -- on board an airplane or off one.

    Maybe the folks who brought those items into the airport and made the metal detectors beep are all morons.

    More likely, though, they just haven't yet gotten used to living under police-state rules.


    The usual road to slavery is that first they take away your guns, then they take away your property, then last of all they tell you to shut up and say you are enjoying it. -- James A. Donald
  20. Spackler

    Spackler Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but that doesn't cut it with me.
    First, "free country" has nothing to do with what you can carry on board a commercial aircraft.

    I can understand mistakenly having a small swiss army knife attached to your keychain just because you forgot it's there, but anybody who knowingly tries to bring a utility knife or saw blade or axe onto the plane is an idiot. Unless they've been living under a rock for the last 17 months, people should know better.

    Scissors, by the way, are still allowed if they are the small, blunt-ended variety (like children's scissors).

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