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Dick Durbin's Dirty Back Yard, Gitmo Illinois.

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Captal_de_Buch, Jun 18, 2005.

  1. Captal_de_Buch

    Captal_de_Buch New Member

    Dec 29, 2002
    Illinois Senator Dick Durbin, the Democratic Party's loudmouth at large, has recently compared American interrogators at Guantanamo Bay to Nazis and Khmer Rouge leader Pol Pot.

    Durbin doesn't have any room to talk. He not only has been turning a blind eye to some of the most heinous acts perpetrated on American soil, he is part of the political party that has been in charge of it. The Democrats rule the Chicago metro area with an iron hand.

    Chicago has one of the highest rates of police coerced false confessions in America.

    Check out what Court TV has to say about coerced confessions in Chicago:


    It looks like the Chicago area Democrats are the real Nazis
  2. El Tejon

    El Tejon Elder

    Dec 24, 2002
    Lafayette, Indiana-the Ned Flanders neighbor to Il
    "I hate Illinois Nazis." :D
  3. AirForceShooter

    AirForceShooter Senior Member

    Oct 31, 2004
    Central Florida
    This SOB should be impeached and then tried for treason!!

  4. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    It's becoming increasingly difficult to distinguish among the criminals, the crooked cops, and the assault lawyers.
  5. mons meg

    mons meg Active Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Logan County, OK
    Slow down, Tejon, you'll disrupt their parade. ;)
  6. ravinraven

    ravinraven Active Member

    Jan 1, 2003
    Brasher Falls NY
    How about the "sandy turban" award....

    ....or something to remember this Durbin POS. Call it Durbin's Turban. We could have an awards ceremony every little while to call attention to the anti-American anti-Liberty crowd. Chap-Of-Quiddick Teddy would make a good "awardee."

    Can you stomach the crowd, including a few RINOs wanting to tell the terrorists that we're pulling out on a certain date. These "leaders" who propose this know better. But they are pitching to the fools in society who they hope will be in enough numbers to give them a victory in the next election. As the anti-Lberty crowd gets more desperate, there will be more Deaniac speech making of this type.

    Can you imagine this phone call just as the battle of the bulge was winding down?::


    "Hello. Adolph?"

    "Sieg Heil!"

    "This is Franklin."

    "Vat kan I do to help you today, Franklin?"

    I just wanted to say that we're pulling out of Europe starting the first of February."

    "Das ist fine!"

    "Yeah. The Republicans are raising hell about the casualties and the expence. And they ain't happy about the POW camps all over the place over here. They thought you'd throw in the towel by mid-June last year, but you're not quitting. In fact you just stretched us thin and killed a lot of fine soldiers. They've had it. We've had it."

    "Das ist great!"

    "'Bye now."


    May you live in interesting times.

    May you live in Hillarious times!

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  7. GoRon

    GoRon Participating Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    west burbs of Chicago
    Mark Steyn

    Durbin slanders his own country

    June 19, 2005


    Throughout the last campaign season, senior Democrats had a standard line in their speeches, usually delivered with righteous anger, about how "nobody has a right to question my patriotism!" Given that nobody was questioning their patriotism, it seemed an odd thing to harp on about. But, aware of their touchiness on the subject, I hasten to add that in what follows I am not questioning Dick Durbin's patriotism, at least not for the first couple of paragraphs. Instead, I'll begin by questioning his sanity.

    Last Tuesday, Senator Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, quoted a report of U.S. "atrocities" at Guantanamo and then added:

    "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings."

    Er, well, your average low-wattage senator might. But I wouldn't. The "atrocities" he enumerated -- "Not only was the temperature unbearably hot, but extremely loud rap music was being played in the room" -- are not characteristic of the Nazis, the Soviets or Pol Pot, and, at the end, the body count in Gitmo was a lot lower. That's to say, it was zero, which would have been counted a poor day's work in Auschwitz or Siberia or the killing fields of Cambodia.

    But give Durbin credit. Every third-rate hack on every European newspaper can do the Americans-are-Nazis schtick. Amnesty International has already declared Guantanamo the "gulag of our times." But I do believe the senator is the first to compare the U.S. armed forces with the blood-drenched thugs of Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge. Way to go, senator! If you had a dime for every crackpot Web site that takes up your thoughtful historical comparison, you'd be able to retire to the Caribbean and spend the rest of your days torturing yourself with hot weather and loud music, as well as inappropriately provocative women and insufficient choice of hors d'oeuvres and all the other shameful atrocities committed at Guantanamo.

    Just for the record, some 15 million to 30 million Soviets died in the gulag; some 6 million Jews died in the Nazi camps; some 2 million Cambodians -- one third of the population -- died in the killing fields. Nobody's died in Gitmo, not even from having Christina Aguilera played to them excessively loudly. The comparison is deranged, and deeply insulting not just to the U.S. military but to the millions of relatives of those dead Russians, Jews and Cambodians, who, unlike Durbin, know what real atrocities are. Had Durbin said, "Why, these atrocities are so terrible you would almost believe it was an account of the activities of my distinguished colleague Robert C. Byrd's fellow Klansmen," that would have been a little closer to the ballpark but still way out.

    One measure of a civilized society is that words mean something: "Soviet" and "Nazi" and "Pol Pot" cannot equate to Guantanamo unless you've become utterly unmoored from reality. Spot the odd one out: 1) mass starvation; 2) gas chambers; 3) mountains of skulls; 4) lousy infidel pop music turned up to full volume. One of these is not the same as the others, and Durbin doesn't have the excuse that he's some airhead celeb or an Ivy League professor. He's the second-ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee. Don't they have an insanity clause?

    Now let us turn to the ranking Democrat, the big cheese on the committee, Patrick Leahy of Vermont. Leahy thinks Gitmo needs to be closed down and argues as follows:

    "America was once very rightly viewed as a leader in human rights and the rule of law, but Guantanamo has drained our leadership, our credibility, and the world's good will for America at alarming rates."

    So, until Guantanamo, America was "viewed as a leader in human rights"? Not in 2004, when Abu Ghraib was the atrocity du jour. Not in 2003, when every humanitarian organization on the planet was predicting the deaths of millions of Iraqis from cholera, dysentery and other diseases caused by America's "war for oil." Not in 2002, when the "human rights" lobby filled the streets of Vancouver and London and Rome and Sydney to protest the Bu????ler's plans to end the benign reign of good King Saddam. Not the weekend before 9/11 when the human rights grandees of the U.N. "anti-racism" conference met in South Africa to demand America pay reparations for the Rwandan genocide and to cheer Robert Mugabe to the rafters for calling on Britain and America to "apologize unreservedly for their crimes against humanity." If you close Gitmo tomorrow, the world's anti-Americans will look around and within 48 hours alight on something else for Gulag of the Week.

    And this is where it's time to question Durbin's patriotism. As Leahy implicitly acknowledges, Guantanamo is about "image" and "perception" -- about how others see America. If this one small camp of a few hundred people has "drained the world's good will," whose fault is that?

    The senator from Illinois' comparisons are as tired as they're grotesque. They add nothing useful to the debate. But around the planet, folks naturally figure that, if only 100 people out of nearly 300 million get to be senators, the position must be a big deal. Hence, headlines in the Arab world like "U.S. Senator Stands By Nazi Remark." That's al-Jazeera, where the senator from al-Inois is now a big hero -- for slandering his own country, for confirming the lurid propaganda of his country's enemies. Yes, folks, American soldiers are Nazis and American prison camps are gulags: don't take our word for it, Senator Bigshot says so.

    This isn't a Republican vs Democrat thing; it's about senior Democrats who are so over-invested in their hatred of a passing administration that they've signed on to the nuttiest slurs of the lunatic fringe. It would be heartening to think that Durbin will himself now be subjected to some serious torture. Not real torture, of course; I don't mean using Pol Pot techniques and playing the Celine Dion Christmas album really loud to him. But he should at least be made a little uncomfortable over what he's done -- in a time of war, make an inflammatory libel against his country's military that has no value whatsoever except to America's enemies. Shame on him, and shame on those fellow senators and Democrats who by their refusal to condemn him endorse his slander.

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  8. DRZinn

    DRZinn Senior Member

    May 18, 2004
    In a pot of water, 200 degrees and rising slowly..
    Pardon me, but I was on a ship around that time and heard no news until the fateful morning. Did that really happen?
  9. foghornl

    foghornl Mentor

    Dec 27, 2002
    MAN, OH MAN....

    So many that need it, and so little of the tar and feathers. . .
  10. boofus

    boofus Guest

    Forget the tar. We have superglue now. :evil:
  11. Onmilo

    Onmilo Mentor

    Jul 26, 2004
    And people still want this political party to have majority rule in this country.
    That is what still shocks and amazes me.

    I have yet to see a video of some poor soul having their head sawn off with a knife that has been proven to originate from the Marine base at Gitmo.

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