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Does anyone carry "cross draw"?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by DocRx, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. DocRx

    DocRx Well-Known Member

    Because of an injury, I have limited movement of my shoulder. I usually carry at 3:30, right side in either a OWB or IWB, and sometimes it gets somewhat painful to reach "backwards" to draw my gun. I was wondering, and testing on my own, the possibility of carrying "cross draw". Do we have any "veterans" of carrying in that manner here? What are the pros and cons? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
  2. 460Shooter

    460Shooter Well-Known Member

    I carry at 9:00 fairly often when a chunk of steel digging into 4:00 gets to be too much. I still carry IWB. It works fine for me as an alternate and I find that with the right jacket or coat I print less than I do at 4:00. It makes riding in a car more comfortable also.

    In summer I pocket carry a 642. I don't like IWB when I'm wearing light clothing. I'm pretty lean though so IWB is never truely comfortable to me.
  3. Skribs

    Skribs Well-Known Member

    The con is that you're drawing sideways instead of up. This means you have a 2 foot target to stop at instead of a 5-6 foot target.

    However, if your injury makes it easier to draw cross draw, that would probably be the better option for you.
  4. wasr10634unme

    wasr10634unme Well-Known Member

    search aiwb :appendix in the waistband

    holster recommendations :raven concealment, crossbreed quickclip, archangel
  5. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    As Skribs said, if this is the only way that you can carry, then it is the best way for you.

    Some of the "cons" can otherwise be:
    1) Cross-draw is measurably slower than a strong-side holster. I know a lot of people will say, "not for me!!!" but without the numbers recorded off a shot timer, that's not credible. You must reach farther and must turn the gun and present it in a motion that sweeps around to get on target, meaning you cannot use the "4-count" draw stroke and cannot fire until your draw is complete.

    2) Further, the end of your draw is in stopping a horizontal sweep to land on your target, instead of punching the gun straight out at your target, making your first shot accuracy tend to suffer. (Think that isn't so? Set up the targets and the timer and prove it to yourself!)

    3) The cross-draw draw stroke is easily blocked/fouled. If you are in a situation where you're truly fighting for/with the gun, an attacker who grapples with you can with some ease bind your strong-side arm, or get his body in the way so you can't snake your hand across to the opposite side to grasp your gun. There are some techniques to minimize that problem, but you'll have to practice keeping your body clear enough to get your firing hand over there. Conversely, the strong-side draw-stroke is very hard to foul or block.

    3a) While someone who grapples with you can block you from grasping your gun, your gun is oriented in a way that makes it most easily grabbed by someone facing you.

    4) Most ranges, and all competitions, prohibit the use of holsters that orient the muzzle up-range when holstering or drawing (so no cross-draw, shoulder rigs, or SOBs). That can make it difficult to get the critical practice time in with your carry equipment.
  6. Old Fuff

    Old Fuff Well-Known Member

    I sometimes use a cross-draw technique developed by Ed McGivern (See his book, Fast and Fancy Revolver Shooting, available in reprint from www.amazon.com) and it ain't slow with short barreled guns. The handgun is placed just to the left of the belt buckle at about 10:30 to 11:00.

    The shooter shifts his feet so they are standing side ways to the target. At this point you twist at the hips counter-clockwise as the hand grips the butt, and that movement will almost pull the gun clear of the holster. Tip the muzzle up at waist level and shoot, or twist again at the hips going clockwise to face more toward the target while lifting the gun to sholder level and taking a two-handed grip.

    If you can't do otherwise, practice the draw at home with an unloaded gun. The addition of an laser sight will offer a substantial advantage a training aid, as well for the intended purpose.
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2012
  7. Lonestar49

    Lonestar49 Well-Known Member



    Old Fuff has it right..

    It's how I carry my 3" SA EMP 9mm 1911

    Very comfy,

  8. jeepnik

    jeepnik Well-Known Member

    I carry OWB cross draw most of the time and have for a couple of decades. I found that it's nice to have easy access to my handgun with either hand. My favorite rig is one that is a high ride cross. It conceals well, as it is designed to lay close to the body. It does require a very good belt.

    On the plus side, it's easy to "protect" your handgun with your arm when in crowds, and no one seems to notice.
  9. jeepnik

    jeepnik Well-Known Member

    I think Old Fluff responded well to Sam1911. But, I'll add that if done properly, you won't sweep anything but the ground and your target, just as with a strong side draw. And, again if done properly, it isn't any easier to foul a cross as opposed to a strong side draw.

    One last point. It can be rather difficult to reach a handgun worn in a high riding strong side at anywhere between three and 5 o'clock with your off hand, especially if you are tangled up with someone. The cross can be easily protected during such times, yet it can be reached with either hand should the chance arise.

    Oh, and as to the timer thing, I've done it. Now compared to some speedy folks, I'm slow as molasses, but for me, it's no slower (I won't say it's faster, just to appease you) than a strong side draw.

    Now the nice thing here is this, I like cross, you like strong. And, we are both happy with our decisions. Ain't life great, all these choices and we get to make them for ourselves.
  10. Eb1

    Eb1 Well-Known Member

  11. T Bran

    T Bran Well-Known Member

    I really dont have much of a choice with both of my single actions because of barrel legnth. It is either crossdraw or a Hans Solo rig that ties at the knee other wise you cant even clear leather.
    The crossdraw ia fine in the woods and very comfortable when walking or sitting.
    It really depends on the situation you are carrying in. For concealed carry with a shorter weapon if cross is your only option it is still far better than going unarmed and at least your gun wont get mangled by the seatbelt clasp.
  12. smalls

    smalls Well-Known Member

    I've tried it IWB with a snubby, and found it extremely uncomfortable, and I couldn't sit down. I wouldn't mind trying it OWB, though, as I could probably get it a little further back, without my hip bone getting in the way.
  13. Gadget

    Gadget Active Member

    I've carried cross-draw for about 30 years now. I find it convenient for me and easier to get to while strapped in a car. I prefer a high-ride (think semi-shoulder rig) height. If it works for the OP, then practice a straight draw with a drop of the off-side foot instead of stepping into your stance. For me this method eliminates the time lag of acquiring stance while bringing firearm to strong side for presentation.
  14. checkmyswag

    checkmyswag Well-Known Member

    It is very convenient while driving, but that's about it.
  15. Swing

    Swing Well-Known Member

    Yes, depending on the clothing worn.
  16. MCgunner

    MCgunner Well-Known Member

    I guess you could call my fanny pack a cross draw, wear it at about 11 oclock right hand draw. I find it about the only way I can belt carry a K frame sized revolver or full sized auto, concealed in plain sight, no worries about flashing the gun. Otherwise I pocket carry.

    I really like the fanny pack if seated in the car, very easy to access. Crossdraw would have similar qualities if in a proper holster, not IWB, but OWB and canted.
  17. Snag

    Snag Well-Known Member

    If it's IWB I like it just to the left of my belt buckle. For me it's more comfortable than on my right side digging in to my hip bone or my lower back. OWB though I much prefer it over on my right side.
  18. Drail

    Drail Well-Known Member

    The difference in speed using a cross draw rig is actually very small. In the early days of USPSA/IPSC shooting cross draw rigs were very popular with a lot of the top competitors. It eventually lost favor because of range safety concerns more than because the strong side guys were faster. I have competed using both types and I don't think you'll give up enough speed to make much difference. I also carried cross draw for about 10 years when I had a job that required many hours behind the wheel. Cross draw allows you faster and easier access to your gun than strong side when sitting down in most modern vehicles and trucks. It also doesn't have the problem of seat belts and consoles getting in the way of your draw.
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2012
  19. jem375

    jem375 Well-Known Member

    I have been carrying cross draw for years with holsters specifically canted for that. It is just as fast if not faster than strong side carry in my opinion, I carry both ways, but in a vehicle it is much easier to grab.
  20. JTQ

    JTQ Well-Known Member

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