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Election Dilemma

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Bubbles, Oct 20, 2004.

  1. Bubbles

    Bubbles Well-Known Member

    I've voting for Bush in the Presidential election. That's not an issue.

    The problem is the Congressional race. The incumbent RINO has a GOA D rating, and was one of only 22 House Republicans to vote against the repeal of the DC gun ban last month. The Democrat challenger is unrated, but known as a hard-left liberal, and he has stated that he supports the AWB. This race was supposed to be a shoo-in for the incumbent, but has now become too close to call.

    Here's the dilemma - neither candidate is good on guns. HOWEVER, there is a very good, GOA A+ rated Republican legislator in the General Assembly who won't challenge the incumbent in a primary, but who will run for the nomination in 2006 if the Democrat wins this year.

    So, do I hold my nose and vote for the incumbent, or do I withhold my support from both candidates and leave that section of the ballot blank? There is no third-party candidate in this race, and there's no way I will vote for the Democrat.
  2. Zrex

    Zrex Well-Known Member

    Ah! Short term sacrifice for the potential of a long term gain.....

    Its a tough call. How does the Republican stand on other pro-freedom issues compared to the Democrat?
  3. Mikul

    Mikul Well-Known Member

    Vote for the Democrat. When I have to choose between two terrible candidates, I vote for the challenger. I'm certainly not going to reward someone for years of poor service. In your case, it has the added benefit of giving you the potential for a big win when this Democrat's re-election comes up.
  4. RealGun

    RealGun Well-Known Member

    Vote Republican. The D-rated GOP legislator is still subject to peer pressure, when there is the usual effort to vote along party lines. Voting otherwise just makes it easier for Democrats to accumulate votes for or against a bill, and one does not really have to speculate how they will vote.
  5. benEzra

    benEzra Moderator Emeritus

    Or leave that section of the ballot blank, write the Democratic party and tell them why you couldn't vote for their candidate, and write the Republican party and tell them why you couldn't vote for their candidate.

    (Just an option.)
  6. pax

    pax Well-Known Member

    Write in "None of the Above" and tell the Republicans why.

  7. Diggler

    Diggler Well-Known Member


    For no other reason that we NEED a solid majority in Congress whether Kerry gets elected or not. Liberal Repub's are a pain in the butt but they are pretty irrelevant within their party and still help to keep the power out of the hands of such critters as Feinstein, Kerry and Kennedy.
  8. Poodleshooter

    Poodleshooter Well-Known Member

    +1 to pax's response. Write to the candidate AND the local party.
    I've written in my own name in many VA elections where a "Republican" was running.
    Local elections here are the hardest to deal with because there's seldom a libertarian or other viable third party alternative (hello third parties, get working at the local level in VA!)
    Then again, there aren't enough of them in this region to shake a stick at. Perhaps that's why there is no local activity.
  9. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Vote for the Libertarian.
  10. Bubbles

    Bubbles Well-Known Member

    If you go by their statements, they're about the same. The problem is the Democrat has no voting record.

    I was thinking about writing in "No Gun Control" since the write-in votes are tabulated.

    There is none in this race; otherwise there would be no question about my vote.
  11. ssr

    ssr Well-Known Member

    I'm in the same boat. I'm sick of these RINO Republicans who actively vote against our gun rights. But then all I'm left with is voting for a true Democrat.

    But then, what if we vote against these RINOS, and then Democrats win and win a majority or close to it, and then Kerry wins. Not good at all! Thnik about the future pushes for Semi-Auto Bans and then the upcoming UN conference on world wide small arms treaty. Do we want Democrats in control of everything? Not at all.
  12. RealGun

    RealGun Well-Known Member

    Withholding a vote and making it easier for the Dem is not productive. It's idealistic, perhaps righteous, but it's not productive. It's counterproductive.

    The seemingly automatic Libertarian suggestion wouldn't apply. Take note that there was no LP alternative mentioned.
  13. Turkey Creek

    Turkey Creek Well-Known Member

    I follow a standard proceedure in these situations- I vote against the incumbent- it's my way of being an equal oportunity employer- give everyone a chance to be a moron- plus the challenger, if elected, will start at the bottom of the heap and not have as much influence in committees, thus being less of a danger-
  14. RealGun

    RealGun Well-Known Member

    There aren't very many of them running according to the GOA ratings of candidates for contested seats. A number of the 12 incumbent Republicans in the Senate do not look very good, but the House is generally impressive. There are not nearly as many, but it is surprising how many Dems are highly rated. None are incumbent Senators, but 12 Democratic House incumbents are rated B or better.

    The ratings indicate 34 states with Senate races, a few uncontested. All House seats are up for election.

    GOA Congressional candidate ratings
  15. ssr

    ssr Well-Known Member

    Well, my Republican Senator has a D rating, but he's running against a Democrat with a F.
  16. RealGun

    RealGun Well-Known Member

    I'll guess that you are in a State with a megalopolis and dominated by big city government. They're all pretty much the same, it would seem.
  17. mrapathy2000

    mrapathy2000 member

    is their a libertarian candidate? that or leave blank. wouldnt vote for the republican with that record then again he could prove very usefull when it comes to a Dem vs Rep issue in congress and we need reps. part could pressure him.

    do not vote dem we got to many as is.
  18. Gifted

    Gifted Well-Known Member

    Is there no Libertarian on the ballot, or no Libertarian at all? I'll assume you've looked them up to see that there's not one to write in.
  19. Bartholomew Roberts

    Bartholomew Roberts Moderator Emeritus

    If the Republican in question is Frank Wolf, I would definitely follow Pax's suggestion as he is no friend to us. If not, then I would probably still follow it.

    With the Texas redistricting giving the Republicans about six seats, we can afford to lose a few RINOs in other states and still keep comfortable control of the House.
  20. RealGun

    RealGun Well-Known Member

    When you don't help to defeat the Democrat, aren't you doing the cut-off-your-nose-to-spite-your-face thing? Why give the Dems more votes, when some of the Republicans are already unreliable in a weak majority? Electing another weak Republican at least gives the party leadership a shot at leveraging more conservative voting.

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