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Exactly how NOT to DRAW

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by 45R, Jun 19, 2004.

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  1. 45R

    45R Well-Known Member

    An example on how not to draw. Click HERE
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2004
  2. pax

    pax Well-Known Member

    If he's re-holstering, that's the best place for his thumb to be. Stops the slide from getting knocked out of battery when the gun is placed in the holster.

    If the trigger finger is where it appears to be, that's another thing. :banghead:

  3. Ukraine Train

    Ukraine Train Well-Known Member

    Hey! That's me!

    maybe he wants a broken thumb and a hole in his foot?
  4. chevrofreak

    chevrofreak Well-Known Member

    Ukraine Train, firing a Glock or XD or some other locked breech striker fired handgun like that wouldnt break your thumb, provided you used a decent amount of force on the back of the slide.
  5. hksw

    hksw Well-Known Member

    Looks to me like he's just in the process of bringing the gun (and weak hand) up to eye level to shoot in a quick manner. The trigger finger does not look like it is on the trigger but in the process of being put on it during raising the gun. Not entirely sure as the front of the trigger area and finger tip is partially obscured.The grip is a little loose possibly due to whereever he had the gun held when drawn could have been to close to the body to allow him to get a quick wraparound grip on the frame.

    Doesn't look bad too me with this one picture. Have to see any other pics to be sure if he is doing anything unsafe.
  6. Benjamin

    Benjamin Well-Known Member

    I haven't seen the other thread, but that doesn't look like a draw.

    No belt loops - no belt - no holster.

    Jogging shorts won't support a paddle holster.
  7. Matt G

    Matt G Moderator Emeritus


    I can't stress this enough: When at the range, at home, or anywhere:


    This is how people get shot in the toe. Take a firm grip on the pistol, and, if carrying it, POINT it in a safe direction.

    If drawing, POINT it at your target, the second you clear leather.

    When holding a pistol, have purpose with it. Otherwise, reholster, recase it, or PUT IT DOWN!.

    Yes, I know I'm preaching to the choir, here, but it's always worthwhile to recite some of these important credos.

    'Smatter of fact, let's re-read The Four Rules of firearms safety. It's worth it.

  8. mfree

    mfree Well-Known Member

    If you blow the gamma on the picture, you can see two things.

    1. His finger is definitely inside the trigger guard (BAD) but off the trigger and against the front of the guard.

    2. The gun isn't dangling... the flesh of his palm is markedly compressed and his fingers are visibly squeezed... he's got a strong grip on the gun itself, just not with the thumb. If it were anything but a Glock/polymer striker DA I'd say he was going for the safety.... which he might be, subconsciously.
  9. BerettaNut92

    BerettaNut92 Well-Known Member

    I think he's working on the prerequisites before filing that handicap parking placard application :D
  10. Treylis

    Treylis Well-Known Member

    Also committing a fashion crime. ;-)
  11. hksw

    hksw Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking his shorts may have a drawstring, enough to hold up a holster of some type or maybe even carry Mexican.
  12. kernal_panic

    kernal_panic Well-Known Member

    i wanna know what forum this was posted on. the guy is a total buffon.

    1. finger on the trigger!
    2. muzzle NOT pointed in a safe direction (its pointing at his toe!)
    3. the thumb DOES NOT belong on the back of the slide
    4. he's going to shoot someone because he's going to take a hot one down that wife beater he's wearing and do the hot one in shirt dance.
  13. El Tejon

    El Tejon Well-Known Member

    kernal, if he's drawing:

    1. his stance sucks;
    2. he's bowling the gun, not in #2 where it should be;
    3. he's got his finger on the trigger before the sights are on;
    4. call him stumpy, he's got his support hand chasing the pistol;
    5. his head is down;
    6. he's doing the "Yeehaw flip up", sort of a reverse Zebco, pistol at ready or back at #2 or, put the bloody thing away;
    7. inter alia, ad naseum.

    However, he's got a gun and at least he's trying. I just hope no one is emulating this.:uhoh:
  14. atek3

    atek3 Well-Known Member

    who is this tool?
  15. ScottS

    ScottS Well-Known Member

    Well, there are two positive things:

    1. He's wearing eye/ear protection
    2. His undershorts aren't sticking out of his shorts.

    Gotta look for the pluses where you can find them.

  16. Matt G

    Matt G Moderator Emeritus

    Please be nice, now.

    The guy's making some mechanical errors (and a fashion crime), but there's no reason to be rude.

    El Tejon makes some excellent points.

    Also, we must appreciate that the boy is:
    wearing ear and eye protection.
  17. BluesBear

    BluesBear member

    It plainly says "Drawing and shooting from an imaginary holster."

    Let's hope it's an imaginary gun so he doesn't blow an realistic hole in his foot.
  18. iamhistory

    iamhistory Well-Known Member

    hmmmmmmmm........................toothpick hanging out of his mouth and a wife beater on during shooting practice. Says something about his attitude & personality don't you think? Maybe also explains a little about the mentality and therefore the lack of firearms skills.

    I agree w/ atek 3................he is a tool.
  19. Daniel T

    Daniel T Well-Known Member

    Not particularly, but it says plenty about people who assume things about other people based on a casual observance of a picture that could have been taken under a huge variety of circumstances.

    It's hard to see exactly where his finger is in relation to the trigger because you can't see the fingertip. His thumb is not in a good spot though. I like the fact that he is wearing saftey glasses and hearing protection.

    Overall, it rates a "Eh."
  20. iamhistory

    iamhistory Well-Known Member

    Really? I guess you have all the answers then EH Daniel? If you can't pick up several things from this pic and rather believe that myself and a number of other people from various backgrounds and experience are simply making assumptions then you need to think twice before you YOURSELF start making assumptions about people making assumptions.

    I believe a lot can be garnered from first impressions......albeit you have a point that the pic could have been taken under a variety of circumstances. Whatever these circumstances may be, I cannot speculate.........but at best this character is practicing what APPEARS to be unsafe gun handling with a caption that describes that he is "drawing and shooting from an imaginary holster". You can stick up for him if you want, but the bare bones for me is I wouldn't want to be around him.

    A picture is worth a thousand words is most cases. In this case, I choose to judge from the pics and not your theory. Go to the link and look at all the pics.........the kid looks as though he is an inexperienced youngster who's more interested in looking cool with his firearm than he is in proper technique and safety. It doesn't matter then what the actual truth is........the picture gives people an impression and is on the internet for all to see, so that IS the truth at this particular moment. Even his own brother attests to the fact that the guy had his finger on the trigger when he shouldn't have several other times throughout the day! In later pics the brother and apparent owner of the pistol is flashing signs, has a shirt on his head and shorts down towards his crotch with underwear sticking out. I'm damn surprised that they didn't have their XD pointing sideways in some of those pics. (yo dog.......that'd be gangsta)

    These two brothers may very well be good down home fellas and not punks. I am sure they are good guys. However, at best these pics tell others that for firearms skills and safety these two guys are an example of the blind leading the blind.

    They ought to get some training before they start yucking it up for the camera. As far as the wife beater and toothpick........I retract that statment. He could simply be hot and have just eaten a bag of popcorn. I wouldn't want to assume.
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