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Excited about the H&K P2000 Subcompact?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Optical Serenity, Jan 4, 2006.

  1. Optical Serenity

    Optical Serenity Well-Known Member

    I can't wait for this thing to come out...I'm so stoked...

  2. BlkHawk73

    BlkHawk73 Well-Known Member

    Umm... That would be the P2000SK model and it came out last year. It's been readily available in 9mm and .40 S&W and recently become available in .357 Sig. Was tobe my first handgun of '06 but another P7 tempted me too much.
  3. lunde

    lunde Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I can't wait to walk over to my safe, take one of mine out, and fondle it... ;)





  4. lunde

    lunde Well-Known Member

    That was my V3. Here's my V2:


  5. Caseless

    Caseless Well-Known Member

    With a 2.5" barrel, muzzle flash must be impressive at night.:)
  6. TC-TX

    TC-TX Well-Known Member


    Not even Slightly! ;)
  7. lunde

    lunde Well-Known Member

    The barrel length is more like 3.25 inches.
  8. MyRoad

    MyRoad Well-Known Member

    HK website says 2.48"

    I've been comparing the SK LEM to the G26...

    ------ Cap --- L --- W --- H --- S.R. --- B-L --- Wt.
    SK -- 10 - 6.42 - 1.28 - 4.61 - 5.20 - 2.48 - 1.30lb

    G26 - 10 - 6.29 - 1.18 - 4.17 - 5.67 - 3.46 - 26.1oz

    (sorry, not sure how to make that line up)

    ...and the G26 appears to be smaller in every dimension, except it has a longer sight radius and longer barrel. If the numbers I'm getting from the websites are correct.


  9. Optical Serenity

    Optical Serenity Well-Known Member

    Well, ok, I'm happy that its out! Sorry I'm a bozo...

    How much did you guys pay?
  10. lunde

    lunde Well-Known Member

    The HK web site is incorrect. I suggested they fix it, but for some reason they don't. Try HK's real web site, the one in Germany: http://www.heckler-kochjs.de/

    They list the barrel length as 83mm. That's 3.27 inches.

    Also, grab one, and measure its barrel.
  11. cookekdjr

    cookekdjr Well-Known Member

    I was VERY excited about it.

    Then I read the price tag. :eek:

    So, how 'bout those CZ's? ;)
  12. Newton

    Newton Well-Known Member

    I'll bet it's a real handful in .357SiG :eek:
  13. MyRoad

    MyRoad Well-Known Member

    I noticed in the ads in a recent mag I got, they are showing the SK with the flat baseplates. I held one a while back and bought the non-SK P2000 instead, because the protrusion on the baseplate messed with my grip -- it just didn't fit me. Now that I know there are options, I might reconsider it, but I think I'd prefer to go 9mm since it would be a 'two finger' grip for me, pinky hanging off.

    Ken, do you know if the other measurements on the HK site are accurate?

    Another reason I'm comparing it to a G26.
  14. BlkHawk73

    BlkHawk73 Well-Known Member

    You get what you pay for. If you want a Ferrari, you ain't gonna get one for the price of a Subaru.
  15. Erich

    Erich Well-Known Member

    Cute, but sort of chunky for CCW at 1.34" across . . . . Anyone want to show a photo from above to give us an idea of where the thickness is? Maybe next to a ruler?
  16. Sox

    Sox Well-Known Member

    The thickness is its maximal thickness measured across the ambidextrous slide stop levers. If I recall the grip is only 29mm wide as is the slide and the slide tapers to a narrow 26mm at the top. It is pretty compact.
  17. Erich

    Erich Well-Known Member

    Just over an inch is good on the slide, but the frame worries me. Would the new "Compact" version be thinner? (Serious question: I have no idea and they sound neat.)

    Shoot, I should just go hold one. H&K tends to make large-ish guns for the calibers (albeit wonderful, large-ish guns), but perhaps that's changed.
  18. hartzpad

    hartzpad Well-Known Member

    I love the looks of these HK's but when comparing stats, it seems that a Glock 26 would be better, smaller, cheaper and has much more mags and accessories available . Do they make a DA/SA version with a manual safety for cocked and locked carry instead of just a decocker version (don't know my HK variant numbers)?

    CDNN has these for $670 IIRC, not a bad price.

    I guess I'd like to see a comparison of the HK P2000SK 9mm, Glock 26, CZ RAMI 9mm and Steyr S9.
  19. BlkHawk73

    BlkHawk73 Well-Known Member

    Hmmm...what about the stats that you saw makes it worse than the G26 and makes you think there's less stuff available for it? It's designed as a CCW handgun, how many add on accessories does it need? You also state the G26 would be smaller according to the stats you compared. Now if the G26 is smaller and this is a favorable stat, why would more accessories for the G26 be good? :scrutiny: After all, adding accessories would make it larger. :p

    If you did indeed check stats, they obvious weren't too complete if they didn't list action types. FYI, SA/DA is Variant 3 but no P2000sk models are available with a manual safety lever.

    The P2000 SK uses the trigger system introduced in 2001 on the USP Compact “LEM” (Law Enforcement Modification) model. This unique pre-cocked hammer system combines the advantages of a cocked striker component (constant level of trigger pull and short trigger travel from first to last round fired) with a double action hammer system. The LEM trigger pull has been reduced to 7.5 to 8.5 pounds of pressure (32.5 Newtons), compared to 9.5 to 11.5 pounds found on many conventional double action pistols.

    Using such an enhanced trigger system consolidates ease of use and safety into a convenient, innovative trigger operation—one that prevents unintended firing. And in case of an ammunition-related failure to fire, all that is needed is an additional second or third pull of the trigger without the need of first pulling the slide back to re-cock the Subcompact.

    The enhanced LEM trigger system combines the reliability of a double-action revolver trigger with the crisp, precise trigger of a single-action pistol. For shooters that prefer a conventional double-action/single-action pistol, a special DA/SA variant is planned with a decock button mounted on the rear of the frame. A choice of two simple-to-install grip panels make it easy to custom-fit the P2000 Subcompact to any shooter’s hand. And the same ambidextrous magazine release and dual slide release levers found on the P2000 make handling the Subcompact easy for both right- and left-handed shooters.

    A set of abbreviated “industry standard” mounting rails on the P2000 US SK, enable lights, aimers, and other accessories to be added by sliding them onto the open rail system. The HK P2000 SK also can use widely available, reliable USP Compact magazines.

    • Industry-standard mounting rails for installing accessories
    • Ambidextrous slide release (located on both sides of the frame)
    • Ideal size for concealed carry
    • Optional magazine disconnect
    • Ambidextrous magazine release lever
    • Corrosion proof fiber-reinforced polymer frame
    • Polygonal bore profile for increased velocity, easier cleaning, and longer barrel life
    • Low profile slide and slimline, compactdimensions
    • Very short trigger reset distance to enhance the speed of multiple or follow-up shots
    • Replaceable grip panels for custom fit
    • Polymer recoil absorber bushing aids in recoil reduction
    • Corrosion resistant “Hostile Environment” Nitro Carburized finish
    • Oversized tapered trigger guard for use with gloves
    • Patented Lock-Out Safety device
    • Limited lifetime warranty for civilian sales

    HK P2000sk
  20. gudel

    gudel Well-Known Member

    Quality doesn't come cheap.

    The only reasonable comparison would be to hold one each in your hand.

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