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Extended magazine Pros/Cons

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Chilean, Aug 26, 2008.

  1. Chilean

    Chilean Well-Known Member

    Hi guys, I want to hear your ideas about it

  2. Milkmaster

    Milkmaster Well-Known Member

    pros...more capacity

    cons... too much added weight

    Both depend on priorities. Home defense may make the capacity more important. Carrying the gun through the woods all day may make the weight a bigger problem. Both pros and cons can be reversed depending on the intended use etc...
  3. DaleCooper51

    DaleCooper51 Well-Known Member

    It gives you more shells, but even extended magazines run dry.

    It also changes the balance and handling characteristics of the gun which could be good or bad.

    Aftermarket extensions and clamps make taking the gun apart to clean more difficult.

    Learn to run the gun and the extra magazine capacity won't matter so much.
  4. shevrock

    shevrock Well-Known Member

    Depends on the gun. Oh all of the above apply. but if your using a semi,well it's almost a given.
  5. Calhoun321

    Calhoun321 Well-Known Member

    I used to use 3 shot extensions, now I have cut back to 1 and 2 shot extensions to avoid the use of a clamp that makes disassembly harder.
  6. VegasOPM

    VegasOPM Well-Known Member

    I use a factory length mag (5+1) for my HD shotgun- along with a shell holder on the stock, and a +5 for my USPSA shotgun (10+1). If you think that you'll need to shoot through 6 rounds of 00 without a quiet couple of seconds to reload, in an HD situation- you should really think about an AR with a C-Mag. :uhoh:

    edit: But they look cool.
  7. TehK1w1

    TehK1w1 Well-Known Member

    On the 870 Express series shotguns the mag extension requires modifying the mag tube, and once you modify it the factory cap will unscrew under recoil if you reinstall it.
  8. MAX100

    MAX100 Well-Known Member

    The pros out weights the cons. You will fight with what ammo you have in and on the gun. I wouldn't want over a 8+1 tube ext on a defensive shotgun. Past that you are adding to much forward weight and length.

    The Military 590A1 is a 8+1 cap shotgun

  9. Jeff F

    Jeff F Well-Known Member

    One of my HD guns has a +3 and the other has a +2 on them. Both are loaded with buckshot with 5 slugs in a butt cuff. If I have to grab one and hit the door real fast I don't want to have to worry about grabbing extra ammo on the way out. If 7 or 8 rounds of buck and 5 slugs don't get it done then I'm probably screwed anyways.

    On another note, if you are carrying a shotgun with an extended magazine out in the field hunting with it, theres nothing that says you have to load it up all the way.
  10. mtngunr

    mtngunr Well-Known Member

    I have a WC/ST extension for my 870P....tried several times to like it....no soap...destroys what otherwise is a trim/fast-handling gun....four rounds of 12ga should be enough...to paraphrase Bill Jordan regarding speedloading a revolver, if you haven't solved your problem with the first six rounds, what makes you think things will get better with another six? or two?
  11. Calhoun321

    Calhoun321 Well-Known Member

    Rem 870 mag extensions will not unscrew under recoil. I have shot to many rounds to believe this for a second. If it is evan a remote possibility, then simply check it periodically. It isn't going to happen with just a few shots.
  12. MAKster

    MAKster Well-Known Member

    What he was saying was if you go back to using the standard length mag tube after grinding off the dimples on your Express the mag cap can come loose over time. The dimples hold in the spring retainer which keeps the mag cap tight on the Expresses. You can remedy this by using the Wingmaster style spring retainer and mag cap.
  13. Omaha-BeenGlockin

    Omaha-BeenGlockin Well-Known Member

    Just buy the 7-shot Express---no dimples.
  14. MAX100

    MAX100 Well-Known Member

    7 shotgun Express - detent ball setup on the barrel ring lug.

  15. rantingredneck

    rantingredneck Well-Known Member

    Actually you'd still need a barrel with a ball detente style cap retainer or it will still unscrew. Best bet is do the above and get a proper barrel to mate with that system or stick with the plastic toothy mag spring retainer. Without the dimples you have to be careful unscrewing the cap, but the plastic teeth will still hold the mag cap in place.

    To the OP,

    My 870 currently has a +2 extension, my 11-87 currently has a +3 extension and my 500 is of course unextended 5+1. I'm of the "I want all the ammo I can possibly have" school of thought on this. HD shotgun in my case will be deployed within the confines of my home, likely from the doorway of my bedroom. Weight is not a factor.

    All of these guns also see field use and for those purposes the capacities get converted back to normal.
  16. Landlocked Pirate

    Landlocked Pirate Well-Known Member

    This is just personal preference, of course, but I recently replaced the barrel and magazine assembly on my Mossberg 500 in order to change it from a 20" 8-shot to a 18.5" 6-shot. It now feels MUCH quicker and handier, and I like it a lot better.
  17. foghornl

    foghornl Well-Known Member

    I have a Maverick 88 and a Mossberg 500, both 5+1. I tried a Shooting Budd's "Security Model Maverick" 7+1, and with that longer mag tube fully loaded, it felt front-heavy and unwieldy to me.

    Your Mileage Will Vary.
  18. Calhoun321

    Calhoun321 Well-Known Member

    FWIW, I have never used any type of mag spring retainer in a shotgun with an extension and have never had a problem, nor have I used one when returning to the standard configuration for hunting. I simply haven't had any problems. I don't believe the mag spring retainers have much, if anything, to do with preventing the mag cap from unscrewing. If someone has had a problem, perhaps the mag cap simply wasn't tight to begin with.
  19. MAKster

    MAKster Well-Known Member

    rantingredneck- Say I have a 7 shot Express HD model and wanted to take the extended tube off to shoot trap for example. Would I have to buy a 28" wingmaster barrel since the 28" Express barrels do not have the ball detent? Also, Remington sells a universal mag cap that they claim works on all models. Would this solve this problem?
  20. rantingredneck

    rantingredneck Well-Known Member

    The universal mag cap is meant to either engage the ball detent in the barrel ring or the plastic mag spring retainer used with the dimpled express's. You'd have to have either of those in place to work with it, but yes it will solve the problem given one or the other of those setups.

    IIRC, there are also some express finished 28" accessory barrels sold that have the ball detent in place.

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