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Fast and Furious Report by DOJ Inspector General now available

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Sebastian the Ibis, Sep 20, 2012.

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  1. Sebastian the Ibis

    Sebastian the Ibis Well-Known Member

  2. Old Fuff

    Old Fuff Well-Known Member

    Ah… Justice is served after all. Melson gets to retire with a generous pension, and Weinstein is hung out to dry, but nothing worse. The guys at the top get off and the whole matter can be quickly forgotten before the election. All is well… :rolleyes: :banghead:
  3. Neverwinter

    Neverwinter Well-Known Member

    Yeah, this post is a good illustration of why there was a deafening silence on the whole matter; the IG investigation didn't arrive at their premonitory conclusion. The report only exists to serve as a confirmation of what they already believe, and any failure to come to their conclusion is a failure of the facts to come to The Truth.

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  4. Jim K

    Jim K Well-Known Member

    Gee whiz! Justice is served. Holder's employee finds out that his boss did nothing wrong! What did anyone expect? Truth?

    Of course, someone had to be thrown to the wolves to placate the right wing, until Obama's second term, when he can dispose of those inconvenient people.

  5. Neverwinter

    Neverwinter Well-Known Member

    Of course not, all internal affairs divisions are inherently corrupt. That's why the Congressional commission is there, to take the evidence and come to a different conclusion. The Right conclusion. They're going to find the Guilt-of-the-gaps. The Truth Is Out There. ;)
  6. Deanimator

    Deanimator Well-Known Member

    Certainly ANYTHING to do with THIS Justice Department is quintessentially corrupt and nothing that comes out of it should be taken at face value. Even by the report's own admission, there were those in the White House who refused to cooperate with the investigation.

    Holder and Obama found themselves not responsible for Fast & Furious just as Beria and Stalin found themselves not responsible for Katyn.

    This was a false flag operation intended to justify a new AWB. There isn't even the slightest doubt about it.

    Those who deny it, invariably support repressive gun controls. Fast & Furious was intended to do what they wanted. The coverup likewise.
  7. Sky

    Sky Well-Known Member

  8. Deanimator

    Deanimator Well-Known Member

  9. brickeyee

    brickeyee Well-Known Member

    And Holder escapes by being so incompetent he did not know what his own department was doing.

    He 'hired' and supervised his subordinates, so he is responsible if they failed to inform him.

    Stupid for the win.
  10. unspellable

    unspellable Well-Known Member

    For sale

    Meanwhile, I have some prime swamp land in Florida for sale.
  11. k_dawg

    k_dawg Well-Known Member

    Holder either knew about it and is guilty for that. OR, he did not know about it, and is equality guilty.

    If a ship runs a-ground, the captain is to blame. Even if he was sleeping in his quarters at the time.
  12. oldcelt

    oldcelt Well-Known Member

    This is no surprise to me. I already know that generals are never courtmartialed.
  13. Fremmer

    Fremmer Well-Known Member

    Holder should be found in contempt of congress for stonewalling this investigation. When will obama tell the parents of a murdered border patrol agent what really happened, and how it was allowed to happen?
  14. Neverwinter

    Neverwinter Well-Known Member

    Called it. :cool:

    The fallacy of logic seems pandemic at this point wherein the absence of evidence of A=B doesn't prevent people from maintaining their belief that A=B=C. The report observes a lack of involvement on Holder's part, and for some reason people think that the communications within the White House is relevant. Unless the WH is going around the AG regarding the operations of the DOJ without contacting the Arizona offices, they would be barking up the wrong tree. Perhaps it remains plausible to a mind which finds clairvoyance about Holder's guilt a tenable concept.

    At this point, the deniers are only digging themselves a deeper hole as they join the company of the birthers and 9/11 conspiracy theorists.
  15. unspellable

    unspellable Well-Known Member



    The answer to your first comment is that Holder has already been found in contempt of congress for exactly that.

    The answer to your question is "never".
  16. Zoogster

    Zoogster Well-Known Member

    No good comment.
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2012
  17. Shadow 7D

    Shadow 7D Well-Known Member

    Well, Neverwinter, you will never convince those who find that the whitehouse seemed AWFUL ready to use the F&F guns to justify what was for all intents and purposes a run up of anti gun fervor, need I remind you the president calling out boarder dealers and joint statements with the mexican president.

    so, while, without the whitehouse documents, you can say a+b=c, you can say that A used B (which it created) to further C, that's an AWFUL strong correlation.
  18. Deanimator

    Deanimator Well-Known Member

    Those who WANT a new AWB are never going to acknowledge, much less condemn, the actions of those who acted recklessly to further one.
  19. Neverwinter

    Neverwinter Well-Known Member

    You misread that statement. The equation refers to transitive logic in which people believe that the people carrying out the walking were organized all the way from Obama. The B=C refers to the Holder-Obama connection, and the A=B refers to AZ-Holder. The report found that A=B has no evidence. I hope that cleats up the confusion.

    If this were true, then the Holder emails condemning walking provided to the Congressional committee show that he doesn't want an AWB. Not to mention the DOJ retraction statements after the initial denial that walking did occur.
    That contradicts the belief Truthers have which holds that the DOJ wants another AWB.

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  20. Deanimator

    Deanimator Well-Known Member

    Having somebody pushed under the bus YOU are driving isn't exactly a renunciation of the bus's destination.

    Again, the AHSA types will defend any act in furtherance of another AWB.
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