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First Annual Wyoming Rifleman Challenge/Rendezvous - Worland, WY - July 16-17

Discussion in 'Competition Shooting' started by cabinboy, Jun 7, 2005.

  1. cabinboy

    cabinboy Well-Known Member

    Come one, come all, to the First Annual Wyoming Rifleman Challenge & Rendezvous, to be held July 16-17 in Worland, WY!

    Thanks to the hard work of our hosts, the Riflemen of Wyoming, shooters from across the country will be able to see how they can do against folks who look at 300 yards as "short-range" shooting!

    More details here:


    Contact razorcityrifleman@yahoo.com for more info.

    I'll post an update as the date approaches. Hope to see you there!
  2. Preacherman

    Preacherman Well-Known Member

    Come on, northern THR members - we're always talking about getting together, and here's a golden opportunity to do so, have fun, and learn something at the same time! Wish I could be there, but I'll have to wait for one closer to home.
  3. 444

    444 Well-Known Member

    I am probably going to go.

    I am in a state of flux right now at work. I am changing shifts and have to wait before it is official to submit my request for vacation time. I only need one day to attend this match on my new shift (I don't work Monday - Friday: weekends mean nothing to me except two more days of the week) and I could possibly just call in sick.

    I would say I am 90% right now.
  4. Dienekes

    Dienekes Well-Known Member

    Count me in.
  5. cabinboy

    cabinboy Well-Known Member

    Update to the Sunday course of fire -- hope to see you there:

    Lord Roberts Match

    We'll give you a few minutes to catch your breath, then it's time for one of the classic tests of the rifleman -- the Lord Roberts Match. Named after the president of the British Society of Miniature Rifle Clubs, which were founded in response to the walloping dealt by Boer farmer/riflemen to the British Army (hmmm....) during each of the two Boer Wars, this event will be open to all bolt-action shooters. You'll have one minute, with your fully loaded rifle, to fire as many rounds as possible into a 24-inch black bullseye at 300 yards. World record -- 30+ hits with an Enfield No 1 Mk III. Wow!

    New Link
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2005
  6. Steve Smith

    Steve Smith Moderator Emeritus

    Competitions messages and spam

    ONE message about a competition is enough (rather than the two that you have posted) and it belongs in the Competitions forum, not in Rifle.
  7. 444

    444 Well-Known Member

    Ok, I just heard this morning that my vacation time HAS been approved. Therefore, I will be there. What details do I need to know ?
    I will probably have to shoot one of my M1s. My M1A trigger is broken.
  8. Zak Smith

    Zak Smith Moderator Staff Member

    The link is broken.
  9. 444

    444 Well-Known Member

    And, I haven't got an answer back to my e-mail.

    Come on. I took vacation for this.
  10. Jay Kominek

    Jay Kominek Well-Known Member

  11. Zak Smith

    Zak Smith Moderator Staff Member

    From reading the description, it sounds like an AR15 with an M/RT would be sufficient for all but the last two courses of fire, which require a bolt rifle.

    Since there are no equipment rules specified, are we to assume it's "Open"?
  12. cabinboy

    cabinboy Well-Known Member

    My apologies for being off the Forum.

    The current link:


    The answer to your question: We'll definitely hold a bolt stage for the Lord Roberts. Maybe, if there's time, we'll hold a some kind of shoot off between the bolties and the semis, with accuracy being the dispositive element.

    Net-net: bring a fast boltie (Ishy or Enfield) and your semiauto stick. Buckets of ammo for both.

    Contact me at bloviate@hotmail.com if you have any questions or I can be of help in any way.

    Tx all!
  13. 444

    444 Well-Known Member

  14. Zak Smith

    Zak Smith Moderator Staff Member


    I liked your original post better.

    If you want another rifle match in WY, find a partner and shoot the ITRC. I guarantee it'll be a kick in the pants, and more fun than any "static" event.

  15. 444

    444 Well-Known Member

    I get very frustrated that EVERYTHING has to be made as complicated as possible.

    I am not a big match shooter. I would like to be, but don't have the time. From the description of this match, it sounds a lot like some other matches I already attend. I also practice (when I get the time) on those AQT targets. But I don't have the energy to post/write/call over a period of weeks just to get a couple simple questions answered about the match.
  16. 444

    444 Well-Known Member

    Hey, I got an answer to my E-Mail

    I doubt if anyone would be surprised by it's content:

    "HA! HA! HA! suits me fine. We didn't invite others to our shoots to babysit whiners, if tenting and phones are a challenge for you this is really not the kind of event you would enjoy. It's simply not a Club Med vacation package it's 12 hours a day in 100 degree plus temps with little shade and a fair amount of running.

    Den "

    Den must be a real tough guy. I am obviously not in his league anyway.
  17. Jay Kominek

    Jay Kominek Well-Known Member

    Well, on the bright side, he has now made it perfectly clear what sort of fellow he is.
  18. Zak Smith

    Zak Smith Moderator Staff Member

    Here's the deal. As a match director, the shooters are your "customers."

    As a competitor, I want certain information about an event before attending, and then another set of things during the match. It's not that much different from what a potential student expects from the instructors of a class.

    A match announcement ought to provide: a concise description of the match's purpose or what it is about; the location including specific directions to the range; the required equipment (e.g. minimum round count); the rules (e.g. what guns are allowed in what classes, what ancillary equipment is allowed or prohibited); registration requirements (eg, a registration form) and fees including how to pay and where to send eveyrthing; hotel/lodging/camping information for out of town shooters; and contact information with multiple modes of communication.

    If those aren't clear, would-be competitors don't know what they're getting in to-- to the extent that they might bring guns not even allowed at the match-- besides hinting at a lack of general organization of the match.

    The second set of things - those that I as a competitor want at the match include: a realistic timetable that is kept to; clear rules and stage descriptions; consistent stage descriptions, rules, and penalties for all shooters; impeccable safety procedures (USPSA sets the standard, folks); and professional behavior by the MD and ROs.

    I'm just down in CO so the trip might be easy. But we have our local 3Gun matches in Denver on the 3rd Saturday. Why should I attend your match instead?

    What we are asking for is more information, not how much of a tough guy I have to be to shoot your match. (Incidentally, the two major matches I've shot in the last 4 weeks have each been 2-3 13+ hour days, with a day of driving on both ends.)

  19. cabinboy

    cabinboy Well-Known Member


    We want folks to be there. Drop me a line to bloviate@hotmail.com and I'll do my best to answer your questions.

    Thanks for your perseverance.
  20. Ankeny

    Ankeny Well-Known Member

    Kind of hard to take the match seriously isn't it? Save your time, money, and vacation for the ITRC in Gillette.

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