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For Gun Owners That Can't Quite Decide Who To Vote For Tuesday

Discussion in 'Legal' started by halvey, Nov 1, 2004.

  1. halvey

    halvey Participating Member

    Apr 28, 2004
    Good read and something to think about...


    For Gun Owners That Can't Quite Decide Who To Vote For Tuesday

    This is the column that, to my pleasure, appeared before the
    election. You can also find it here on the Shotgun News web
    site. If you know a gun ownership who doesn't know who to vote for on
    Tuesday, or doesn't see any reason to vote for Bush over Kerry
    or some third partycandidate, have them read this.


    After The Election

    By Clayton E. Cramer

    By the time you read this, the election will be over. Either

    Bush will have won, Kerry will have won--or lawyers will trying

    to repeat the 2000 Florida disaster.

    I hope that Bush will have won by a sufficiently large margin

    that Kerry accepts the loss, and concedes on Election Night. But

    as I write these words, I find myself increasingly worried that

    Kerry might win.

    The news media are pulling out all the stops to elect Kerry:

    misrepresenting the final report of the Iraqi Survey Group on

    WMDs; reporting news based on 1973 Air National Guard memos that

    were produced on a modern computer; soft-pedaling the really

    astonishing level of violence that Bush campaign offices are

    suffering from drive-by shootings, from screaming demonstrators

    forcing entry, and other forms of intimidation.

    We have won a great victory in September, with the expiration

    of the federal assault weapons law. If, as you read these words,

    the news media are filled with coverage about "President-elect

    Kerry," you can be sure that a new, much more extreme version

    of the assault weapons law will be introduced into Congress.

    When President Bush took office in 2001, the federal government

    stopped assisting ambulance-chasers in suing the gun industry

    for "negligent marketing." (Negligent marketing means that gun

    manufacturers were obeying all laws concerning making and

    selling guns, but federal and state authorities were failing

    to enforce existing laws.) You can be sure that President Kerry

    will resume that assistance. Remember: one of America's

    most successful trial lawyers will be Vice President John


    If John Kerry is preparing his inaugural address as you read

    this column, remember that you can blame a lot of gun owners.

    John Kerry made it very clear throughout his time in the U.S.

    Senate which side he was on, and it wasn't our side.

    A lot of American gun owners were taken in by Kerry's photo-ops

    with a shotgun, and did not pay attention to his voting history. If you are

    one of the gun owners who voted for John Kerry a few days ago,

    let's just say that gun ownership wasn't near the top of your

    list of priorities. If it was, you weren't paying attention.

    Or maybe you said, "I don't want to get called for jury duty."

    Sorry, but that won't fly.

    Many states now use driver's license information to call

    jurors. Would you rather spend two weeks on jury duty every few

    years, or lose the right to own a gun?

    "There's no real difference, anyway." I suppose to a blind

    person, there's no real difference between red and blue. This

    election has given us a very clear difference-even more clear-cut

    than the 2000 election, where Gore's history on gun control was

    disappointing, but he had in the past been on our side.

    Kerry has never been on our side. If you don't want to invest

    the time to follow politics (and many people would prefer not to

    do so), you could at least see what gun rights groups such as

    the NRA or Gun Owners of America had to say about the candidates.

    There is one group of gun owners that I am especially upset with

    --and those are the self-righteous gun rights purists, who

    complained that Bush wasn't pure enough. They insisted that

    because Bush agreed to sign a renewal of the federal assault

    weapons ban, they could not vote for him.

    If the choice a few days ago had been between George Bush and a

    wishy-washy Democrat, I could understand the purists who voted

    Libertarian or did not vote for President at all.

    But that wasn't the situation this election day. John Kerry was

    clearly our enemy. President Bush appointed an Attorney General

    who has defended the Second Amendment as an individual right.

    Do you think Attorney General Ashcroft made a decision like that without consulting President


    If a federal assault weapons ban had made it to the Oval Office,

    and Bush had signed it, I could understand the purist disdain

    for Bush. But it didn't happen, because George Bush and House

    Republicans did an incredibly sly job of making sure that no

    assault weapon ban came to his desk. This largely defused the

    assault weapon issue as part of the campaign.

    If you are one of those gun rights purists who did not vote for

    President Bush this year--and are now cringing at the prospect

    of what President Kerry is going to do to your gun rights--I

    sure hope that you learned your lesson. The rest of us are

    going to have four years to repent for your decision.

    posted by Clayton Cramer on October 29, 2004.

  2. ACP230

    ACP230 Senior Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Upper Michigan
    On top of all that, John Kerry is one of the biggest phonies ever to run for President.
    IMO the only authentic thing he does is marry rich women.
  3. tfurey19

    tfurey19 New Member

    Oct 13, 2003
    This starkest contrast in positions between the two candidates is on gun control

    With all due respect... if you don't know who to vote for right now as a gun owner you're a damn idiot.

    Vote now or go to prison later.
  4. Mulliga

    Mulliga Senior Member

    Jan 13, 2004
    Gainesville, Florida
    I voted for Bush (battleground state) but I can't wait until this election is over. :barf:
  5. halvey

    halvey Participating Member

    Apr 28, 2004
    It'll be interesting to see how many gun owners vote blue.
  6. Augustwest

    Augustwest Active Member

    Jan 23, 2003
    Southern New England
    Now that's the high road. :rolleyes:

    If guns were the only thing that mattered to me, I'd have voted for Bush.

    But liberty matters to me. The whole Bill of Rights matters to me. A vote for either Bush or Kerry is a vote for a socialist freedom thief.

    Knowing that I voted my conscience today somehow soothes the incredible pain of being a "damn idiot" in the eyes of someone on an internet message board.
  7. telomerase

    telomerase Senior Member

    Mar 11, 2003
    The bear-infested hills of Grafton NH
    Oh, the President that continues to block most airline pilots from arming themselves? If Bush wins this election, he'll support more gun control. So will Kerry, of course... I think the recent South Park episode on elections summed up the major-party choices.
  8. Zark-9

    Zark-9 New Member

    Jan 7, 2003
    Where I am now


    Its not about the only thing that matters. Its about whats the most important thing that matters ...that thing which defines all else.

    You can't choose your relatives or your presidential candidate, ... you gotta live with them you got.
  9. halvey

    halvey Participating Member

    Apr 28, 2004
    I look to South Park, King of the Hill and the Simpsons for my political information.:)
  10. Silent-Snail

    Silent-Snail Member

    Aug 28, 2004
    On the front just behind the Cheddar Curtain
    You aint the only one:evil:

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