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FTF in Remington R1 question

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by DavidB2, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. DavidB2

    DavidB2 Well-Known Member

    Just went shooting with my R1 and shot Tula and Magtech 230 gr roundball. Had multiple FTF issues. Never had that problem with Blazer or Monarch. Curious as to whether I now have an extractor issue or is it just cheap ammo? By the way, FTF happened with both CMC and Remy mags. Please give feedback.
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2013
  2. Jim K

    Jim K Well-Known Member

    Failure to fire or failure to feed? I do wish folks would stop using the "FTF" to mean both.

    Assuming your mention of the extractor indicates a failure to feed, I think we need more information, like what exactly happened. Can you provide pictures of what the gun looked like (stovepipe, nose jam, etc.)? Maybe the ammo is underpowered and didn't operate the slide fully.

  3. DavidB2

    DavidB2 Well-Known Member


    Just to clarify, I meant "failure to feed". The case of the fired round did not eject from the barrel; causing a jam. This happened several times with both Tula and Magtech ammo. Never had a problem until now. I tried by the CMC mags and Remy mags and had the same problem with both. Am going out again with some Remington UMC ammo I have and see how that works. I hope it is cheap ammo and not an extractor issue.
  4. The Lone Haranguer

    The Lone Haranguer Well-Known Member

    It sounds more like you had a failure to extract or eject.

    Failure to extract (aka double feed):


    Failure to eject:




    Do any of those look familiar?
  5. Urban_Redneck

    Urban_Redneck Well-Known Member

    That is a Failure to Eject (FTE)

    Check your extractor it may have "clocked" which means turned in it's tunnel and is not fully engaging the case rim.

    More likely it's a combination of poor extractor tuning and the Tula ammo leaving residue in the chamber. brass cased ammo fired after steel case ammo can create extraction difficulties. Best give the chamber a good scrubbing and retry.

  6. Patrick Gookin

    Patrick Gookin Well-Known Member

    I've always had Failure to Eject issues with TULA ammo in my 1911. Everything I've ever shot has worked perfectly except TULA.
  7. DavidB2

    DavidB2 Well-Known Member

    failure to extract

    My problem is failure to extract. Thanks for the pictures. I really hope it is just an ammo issue; not an extracter.
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2013
  8. Urban_Redneck

    Urban_Redneck Well-Known Member

    Let us know how it all works out.
  9. WoodchuckAssassin

    WoodchuckAssassin Well-Known Member

    Tula Ammo might be dirty and cheap, but I've never had a problem with it. I put 100 rounds of it down range last weekend without one problem. On the other hand, I've had reeeeeeal bad luck with Magtech Ammo - lots of bad primers and FTF's (that is to say, "Failure To Fire" :D )

    Every guns different. I just wouldn't use that ammo anymore. No point in trying to "fix" your gun just so it can shoot crap ammo.
  10. Hacker15E

    Hacker15E Well-Known Member

    The extractor "clocking" issue is one that you can eyeball and is a simple fix.
  11. The Lone Haranguer

    The Lone Haranguer Well-Known Member

    If the fired case isn't even being pulled out of the chamber and the top round butts up against it, as in the first picture I showed (sorry it is a little blurry), there has to be some mechanical problem with that extractor. Pull back and lock the slide and see if there is even a hook on it.
  12. DavidB2

    DavidB2 Well-Known Member

    Extractor seems fine

    The extractor seems fine. It ejects the casing when I pull the slide back manually. The "hook" on the extractor is still intact. I am going out with Remington 230 grains in the next couple of days. Hopefully, this has only been a bad ammo issue. Shipping out to Afghanistan in a week; so I won't be able to deal with this problem until I return.

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