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German team wins World SWAT Challenge

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by trooper, Jul 2, 2005.

  1. trooper

    trooper Well-Known Member

    I just noticed that a team from my former agency placed first in this year's World SWAT Challenge in Las Vegas :)

    The GSG-9 which is the special operations unit of Germany's federal police (formerly known as Bundesgrenzschutz) won every single event and placed first overall.

    Go niners!! :D :D



  2. Travis McGee

    Travis McGee Well-Known Member

    Wow, a sweep like that is a rare thing indeed!

    Of course, all the SEALs are overseas in combat...
  3. Tman

    Tman Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the heads up. Its on ESPN2 right now for those watching cable (in the USA). :)
  4. 444

    444 Well-Known Member

    Uh Oh.

    They held the event at Front Sight.

    Now we will have to listen to the tin foil hat club on this board tell us that they probably were converted to scientology while they were there.
  5. torpid

    torpid Well-Known Member

    Funny, no one brought it up but you.

  6. Preacherman

    Preacherman Well-Known Member

    The Germans won???

    "Ve haf vays und means of making you comply, ja?" :what:

  7. 444

    444 Well-Known Member

    "Funny, no one brought it up but you."

    Patience grasshopper. The thread is young.
    I am just the first one to bring it up.
  8. RevDisk

    RevDisk Well-Known Member

    After doing weapons training with a few of their members, I wouldn't doubt it for a second that they very much deserved first place. The weapons I saw were tricked out by H&K directly. Sigh...

    I thought I was a good shooter. Oh man, the Germans schooled me HARD.

    One of them taught me how to operate an MG3, which is the modernized version of the MG-42. Probably the only reason why I passed my Schutzenschnur qualification course. I thought I was a good shot, until they told me I had to put 8 rounds of 15 in a bunch black circles the size of a QUARTER in a full color landscape wood land ish poster. You're only allowed to put 2 rounds per tiny black circle. Mind you, this is out of a crew served weapon with a VERY high fire rate. Firing single aimed shots is NOT easy.
  9. thereisnospoon

    thereisnospoon Well-Known Member

    They probably all converted to scientology.

    There you happy 444? :neener:
  10. trooper

    trooper Well-Known Member

    Are you sure the guys you trained with were GSG-9? Your pictures show some Bundeswehr stuff (armed forces, not police).

    We had the opportunity to shoot with them for two days during basic training. A couple of them came by to encourage us young recruits to apply for their selection course and they let us play with their toys for a while... :)

    Awesome shooters, indeed.


  11. DarthBubba

    DarthBubba Well-Known Member

    Ya Ya

    Ya Ya,
    ZER Gute Zat ZEE Germans Still have ZE gooden stormtroopers.
    It is not like they will ever do anything useful with them, you know like say help fight terrorism.
    I wonder if Poland is nervous? HAHAHA

    DarthBubba :neener:
  12. RevDisk

    RevDisk Well-Known Member

    Photos were from the Schutzenschnur qualification, not the weapons training previously. Different ranges.

    I asked my chain of command if I could defect. They said no. :(



    Germany sent approximately 2,250 troops including special forces, naval vessels, NBC cleanup teams, etc to Afghanistan. You are confusing your wars. They actively supported invading Afghanistan, they did not support invading Iraq. The current politically correct answer for invading Iraq is that Saddam was a bad person, not because of terrorism.
  13. Jeeper

    Jeeper Well-Known Member

    I saw it on ESPN and I swear I saw Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes in the background passing out flyers. :neener: Actually Cops dont have enough money to be invited into Scientology. :D
  14. AK-74me

    AK-74me Well-Known Member

    Another thing to consider is that they have a much larger pool to draw from than the other teams. The rules for teams say that the members all must come from one Dept. or Section and you cannot put together "all-star" teams.
    Not to discredit their skill because I'm sure it is very high but I would think they have an advantage in that respect.
  15. RRTX

    RRTX Well-Known Member

    I think the lesson here is not to mess with the Germans or Texas SWAT teams lol
  16. trooper

    trooper Well-Known Member

    Um, but they are from one department/agency. With less than 30.000 employees the German federal police is actually smaller than some large PD's in the US. And the GSG-9 has about 240 officers.


  17. bad LT

    bad LT Well-Known Member

    I bet the guys at Heckler & Koch put some extra special vudoo on the German's guns.
  18. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    The Bundesgrenschuz is an organization that would cause our ACLU to scream. Think of Customs, Border Patrol, Immigration, FBI and the Coast Guard wrapped up into one agency. Hey, isn't that Dept. of Homeland Security? :eek:

    Anyhow, I'm fond of the Bundesgrenschuz. I was a guest (no, not incarcerated) at one of their barracks. They even have a vomitorium in the the water closet of their canteen. :uhoh: I asked the women if they had one and they said, "Ja, ja." :barf: Those Germans. :p
  19. horge

    horge Well-Known Member


    Jokes aside, virtually every public building has a vomitorium --- a mass exit
    out the front (typically also the main entrance).
  20. AK-74me

    AK-74me Well-Known Member

    Again not taking anything away from GSG-9 because everything I've read about says they are top notch but for example LAPD SWAT, if I am not mistaken is made up of 70 officers. I don't know of any Dept. here in the U.S. that has a 240 member special ops. team.

    Correct me if I am wrong but isn't GSG-9 the elite, the best of the best. They are all ready like and all-star team compared to the rest of the teams they are going up against. To me anyway a fair competion would be to put them up against the best of the best from our country. Pick the best 10 guys from each country and let them go head to head.

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