Trying to decide between a Glock (19, probably) and a stainless Sig 229. Have owned a Glock and a Sig in the past so I know how they both handle, just can't decide between the two, all things considered, so it'll probably come down to what's more resistant to rust since they both have such a reputation for reliability.
Glock or stainless steel, what's the more corrosion resistant?
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Geneseo1911
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I would say the internals would be the decision maker. The fire group, springs, etc. will be more likely to rust than the frame. I would be surprised if either gun would have ALL SS internals. Is this going to be a boat gun or something?
Is this going to be a boat gun or something?
No, I'm just paranoid about rust. I should probably get the Glock b/c I was thinking about it after I posted this. The Glock's barrel (not just the slide) also has the tennifer finish, from what I've read. And even stainless Sigs still have a blued barrel and controls (though the controls are probably aluminium). The Glock's probably a better choice for a carry gun (which is why I was asking), I guess I'm just looking for an excuse to get the Sig b/c they have such a nice SA trigger.
No, I'm just paranoid about rust. I should probably get the Glock b/c I was thinking about it after I posted this. The Glock's barrel (not just the slide) also has the tennifer finish, from what I've read. And even stainless Sigs still have a blued barrel and controls (though the controls are probably aluminium). The Glock's probably a better choice for a carry gun (which is why I was asking), I guess I'm just looking for an excuse to get the Sig b/c they have such a nice SA trigger.
The Lone Haranguer
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On a standard P229, only the slide is stainless. Aluminum alloy (the frame) can corrode badly under some circumstances, particularly if the anodizing is compromised. And the barrel and internal parts are just carbon steel.
Ken Rainey
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Yep, the G19 wins out in that department as well....
.If there's a chance you'll be CCW'ing with it, the Glock is by far the more rust resistant when it comes to long-term exposure to your warm, damp, sweaty self. It takes a lot of abuse to break through the tenifer on a glock slide or barrel.
Considering your focus on the rust issue, I think this guy's personal torture tests on his G21 will be of particular interest to you --
http://theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90&Itemid=40
Glocks aren't the be-all, end-all for all purposes and people. In fact I just chose the M&P9 over the Glock, and once that gun's broken in I'm probably gonna see what all the fuss is about with these 1911's. But if you want durable, simple, and reliable, Glock's pretty hard to beat.
Considering your focus on the rust issue, I think this guy's personal torture tests on his G21 will be of particular interest to you --
http://theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90&Itemid=40
Glocks aren't the be-all, end-all for all purposes and people. In fact I just chose the M&P9 over the Glock, and once that gun's broken in I'm probably gonna see what all the fuss is about with these 1911's. But if you want durable, simple, and reliable, Glock's pretty hard to beat.
Although it soundss odd rust is a very personal concern, some people seem WAY more worried about it than others, but many times their are valid reasons for the difference in opinion.
A certain percentage of people have persperiation of a similar consitency to salty battery acid. I can handle a fine blued S/W and put it up for a week no problem. My cousin touches one and rusty finger prints will develope within a day (Ask me how I know...)
I always thought my Dad was way over oiling his guns, and he never pulled one of out of the cabinet without chemically treating it in some way before return. I barely touched mine with a rag that may or may not have had some super light rem-oil on it at some years earlier and never had a problem.
Well I ended up living right next door to him for few months one summer...you guessed it a fine coat of rust on several of my rifles after less than a month there. Figured out at that point there was a difference between living in the hills and living in what was bascially a swamp.
A certain percentage of people have persperiation of a similar consitency to salty battery acid. I can handle a fine blued S/W and put it up for a week no problem. My cousin touches one and rusty finger prints will develope within a day (Ask me how I know...)
I always thought my Dad was way over oiling his guns, and he never pulled one of out of the cabinet without chemically treating it in some way before return. I barely touched mine with a rag that may or may not have had some super light rem-oil on it at some years earlier and never had a problem.
Well I ended up living right next door to him for few months one summer...you guessed it a fine coat of rust on several of my rifles after less than a month there. Figured out at that point there was a difference between living in the hills and living in what was bascially a swamp.
zignal_zero
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my casual carry methods and poor maintenance habits have led to damaged finishes on several weapons, even some made of stainless steel. but not my Glock, some of the black has worn off the slide, but there has never been one spot of rust on it.
i'm not a koolaider, i can shoot a 4" revolver or a 1911 twice as good as i can a Glock and think they both feel better in my hand, but as far as just a good ol' trusty workin/fightin pistol goes, i've yet to find any that fit the bill like the Glock.
if i was worried about rust, which i'm really not, i would definately stick with a Glock.
i'm not a koolaider, i can shoot a 4" revolver or a 1911 twice as good as i can a Glock and think they both feel better in my hand, but as far as just a good ol' trusty workin/fightin pistol goes, i've yet to find any that fit the bill like the Glock.
if i was worried about rust, which i'm really not, i would definately stick with a Glock.
I am one of those individuals. My hands sweat constantly. Anything blued I have to wipe off.
I've never had a problem with my Glock 19 and rust. But I did get a speck of rust on my 637 stainless barrel once! It was in the summer and I blame it on my ultra sweaty hands.
Considering both pistols have metal components which are rust resistant, I think it is hardly a decision maker here. You're comparing a striker fired polymer pistol to an alloy framed DA/SA.......that's like comparing apples to oranges. Either you like apples best, or you like oranges best.
Apples:
Glock
M&P
Walther P99
Oranges:
Sigs
H&Ks
CZs
....you get the idea
Apples:
Glock
M&P
Walther P99
Oranges:
Sigs
H&Ks
CZs
....you get the idea
hemiram
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The only way I could see worrying about this is if you're one of those people, like a friend of mine is, where your sweat/body oils are somehow off enough to cause severe rusting, and you would hopefully know if you are like this by now. My friend can put a fingerprint on an SS gun, and it will rust in a very short time. On a blued gun, it's almost instantaneous. All his guns are marked up with orange streaks, and/or fingerprints. If he touches mine, they get wiped down as soon as they get handed back with a gun rag.
MP3Mogul
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Only you can make that choice... each person will give you their own opinion.
Personally between the two... I'd get the Sig...
Personally between the two... I'd get the Sig...
Macmac
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Blueduck , I am almost willing to bet the guy that rusts guns is red haired.
mljdeckard
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I am glad to be back in Utah, where rusting is much less of a concern. I was in Monterey for a year, and just normal exposure to everyday objects, like my kid's bikes, my tools, etc was visibly accelerated because I was living on a coastal area with near daily fog. I'm glad I didn't take my guns with me.
jhco
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Glocks are pretty much rust proof unless you do things to it on purpose to make it rust and even then they are realy good at keeping the rust down.
Stainless however does not always mean stainless.
Stainless however does not always mean stainless.
I have been told that in order to acheive the level of strength required for firearm construction the metal my have lower levels of chromium which makes the stainless steel not as stainless as say stainless steel screws used in woodworking aplications as they dont need to be as strongthey can have a higher level of chromium.
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