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Going to Cozumel

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by bigmike45, Jul 1, 2005.

  1. bigmike45

    bigmike45 Participating Member

    Aug 12, 2004
    My wife & I were just given an all expense paid trip to Cozumel by our son and I was wondering about carrying my concealed weapon down there and then carrying it concealed after we arrive. I have gone through transporting a gun while flying already without incident here in the good ol'e USA, but I am now going to another country.

    Has anyone had any experience with Cozumel and this issue. I would like to know the law and any of your experiences in such matters.

  2. dangerclose

    dangerclose New Member

    Feb 27, 2004

    Cozumel is in Mexico. If you ccw there they will treat you like a piniata.
  3. eagle10

    eagle10 New Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Don't try it!! If you are found with even a single loaded cartridge in your luggage, you are in deep s##t. The thought of being put in a Mexican prison while it is sorted out should make you doube/triple check your bags to be sure there is no ammo in them.

    The last time I was in Cozumel was about 10 years ago. I've heard it's changed quite a bit since then. Enjoy your trip - drink only bottled water :D
  4. jpIII

    jpIII Member

    Jun 24, 2004
    South Western Louisiana
    it's pretty much a BIG no-no.

    your whits are about the only thing you can arm yourself with.

    Good luck, and have fun. :)

    (According to Jacques Cousteau, the beaches of Cosumel are the most beautiful in the world)
  5. simon

    simon Member

    Jan 2, 2003
    stuck in PRK
    The best thing you can do there is buy a cheap knife for carry *there* and then discard it for the trip home....
  6. Ransom

    Ransom Member

    Dec 18, 2003
    And you expect to get a firearm through customs how exactly?
  7. entropy

    entropy Senior Member

    Feb 9, 2004
    G_d's Country, WI
    NO, NO, NO, NO! Unless you enjoy the thought of Jose, the area's infamous 400 lb. murderer/rapist, buggering you for the rest of your life. Mexican prisons are not enjoyable travel hostels. ;) My Dad got to know the police chief in Ixtapa, and as a professional courtesy gave him a tour of the police station. He said the lockup reminded him of 'Midnight Express'. :what:
    Cozumel is well patrolled by both local policia and los federales. You are safer there than in LA. Ironically.

    Enjoy your trip, don't drink Victoria beer, only drink bottled water that you break the seal on, and bargain with the tourist junk vendors, that's half the fun! :)
  8. Brasso

    Brasso Member

    Sep 27, 2003
    That island exists for not other purpose than to cater to tourists. We took a cruise there and as soon as we got off the boat there armed mexican police with m16's patrolling the streets. I wouldn't worry too much about safety. Stick to the tourist areas and you will be as safe as you can be. The beaches are spectacular.
  9. WayneConrad

    WayneConrad Senior Member

    Feb 21, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Best idea might be to pretend you're a student in an American grade school:

    Don't bring a firing pin, or a magazine, or a spring, or any part of a gun.
    Don't bring a case, or a bullet, or any part of a cartridge.
    Don't even bring a picture of a gun or catridge.
    Leave your NRA keychain at home.
    Bleat like a sheep. Ok, maybe leave that part out. The rest of it, I ain't joking. I hear that Mexico doesn't joke around with this sorta thing.
  10. Hawkmoon

    Hawkmoon Senior Member

    May 5, 2004
    Also, do not bring any recreational chemicals. A single maijuana seed in your pocket can also qualify you to win an all-expenses paid trip to the lock-up.
  11. Travis McGee

    Travis McGee Participating Member

    Jan 12, 2003
    NE Florida
    Do NOT take even one cartridge to Mexico! Unless you want to spend many years in a dungeon.
  12. Sportcat

    Sportcat Active Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Anderson, SC
    Don't go! :uhoh:
  13. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Jan 3, 2003
    0 hrs east of TN
    Don't take any firearm.

    Don't take any knife with a blade longer than 3 in.

    Take a cane that doesn't have a sword, knife, or goofy flaming skull head.

    Think of Cozumel as a gated secure community with heavily armed guards. Only go on tours the resort sets up.

    Don't worry about the water there, but avoid anything that isn't bottled when outside of the womb of Cozumel. Don't drink anything with ice in it either when outside of Cozumel.
  14. Remander

    Remander Member

    Feb 16, 2003
    You will hear this a lot: Check it out, amigo! Come see my shop! Cuban ceegars, amigo?

    I saw one dude with a briefcase approaching a bank, with two fellows accompanying him who looked to be armed with M16's or similar rifles. I gave them a wide swath. Probably depositing the proceeds of his el cheapo t-shirt and cigar and duffle bag shop.

    We did get a decent outdoor meal at a restaurant on the town square, and the price was not too bad. The Carlos and Charlies and Senor Frog's type joints are turisto traps for sure.

    As posted above, even a .22 cartridge can land you in a hellhole of a jail. Note also the danger of knife possession.



    Mexico has severe penalties for taking in any type of firearm, weapon, or ammunition without first obtaining written authorization from Mexican authorities. It does not matter whether U.S. citizens are licensed to carry the firearm in the United States, or if they unintentionally transport it while driving in their vehicle, or have it in their luggage while traveling by commercial or private plane or boat. It also does not matter if visitors to Mexico are U.S. law enforcement or military officials. Mexican authorities strictly enforce laws restricting the entry of firearms and ammunition along their borders and at air or seaports.

    Each year dozens of Americans are arrested or fined in Mexico in connection with weapons violations. There are several dozen U.S. citizens currently incarcerated in Mexican prisons on weapons-related charges. Many of them inadvertently transported a firearm that they were licensed to carry in the United States without realizing they were violating Mexican laws. Some were driving across the border for a day visit, to shop or to eat in a restaurant. Remember that if caught bringing in a firearm, ammunition, or other weapon, Mexican authorities may confiscate a visitor's vehicle or other personal property and place the individual under arrest. Detained U.S. citizens may spend months in pre-trial detention while their case is being investigated. If convicted, they may face several years in a Mexican prison. While the U.S. consul can visit U.S. citizens in jail, make sure that they are being treated humanely, and provide a list of attorneys to assist with the Mexican judicial process, the U.S. consul cannot get U.S. citizens released from jail.

    U.S. citizens who approach Mexico along the land border or who arrive by boat should check carefully to ensure that someone else has not left weapons or ammunition in the vehicle or boat. If U.S. citizen visitors realize they are in possession of firearms, ammunition, or other weapons, they should not proceed into Mexico. They should not attempt to enter Mexico - even to turn around - or go through Mexican Customs. All land border crossings have pull-offs or turnarounds on the U.S. side. The only way to legally import firearms and ammunition into Mexico is to secure a permit in advance from the Mexican Embassy in Washington, D.C. or from a Mexican Consulate in the United States. Mariners who have obtained a Mexican firearm permit should contact Mexican port officials before attempting to enter Mexican waters, to learn about specific procedures to report and secure weapons and ammunition.

    Some cities, such as Nuevo Laredo, have ordinances prohibiting the possession of knives, similar weapons or anything that might be construed as a weapon. Tourists have even been arrested for possessing souvenir knives. Most arrests for knife possession occur in connection with some other infraction, such as drunk and disorderly behavior.


    If you cross the border with weapons...


    You will be part of dozens of American Citizens arrested each month for violating a very strict Weapons and Ammunition Mexican Law whether you are informed or not.

    You will go to jail and your (automobile) car will in pounded.

    You will be separated from your family, friends and employment also you will probably suffer economically in a substantial way.

    You must pay for your court defense and other costs that oscillates in tenths of thousand dollars .

    If found guilty you might have a sentence up to 30 years in a Mexican prison.



    Once you crossed the border with weapons and ammunition it will too late.

    The lack of knowledge of this Law will not give you indulgency by the police officer.

    You will be arrested and imprisoned.
  15. Mannlicher

    Mannlicher Senior Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    North Central Florida and Miami Florida
    All you can do as a tourist in Mexico, is depend on God, and the kindness of strangers. Mex is the one place where I think I would fear the cops more than the criminals. Frankly, I would just not go.
  16. jetrecbn

    jetrecbn New Member

    Jun 14, 2003
    Don't even think about carrying a BUTTER knife! I was in Rosarito and I got arrested for purchasing a knife. It's a scam. The little kid with his tray full of goodies goes around selling knives and then when you pay him, a crooked son of &**^&& cop walks up to you and arrests you. Let me recall. Cop pulls me in an alley. He looks left, right, and tells me I'm going to jail. He was courteous enough to inspect my wallet for identification. As he pulls out my ID ($180) he says he's doing it for my benefit since it's only a Friday and the courts don't open till monday.
    The funny thing is he got another one of my buddies (same local, same scam), the following week. Oh we had a laugh about it. Hope that SOB gets what's coming to him.
  17. gazpacho

    gazpacho Participating Member

    May 28, 2004
    Bring cash, travellers checks and credit cards that have PIN numbers. Leave your check book at home. In fact, I'd recommend writing the PIN on the back of the credit card. Cozumel is real safe, but kidnapping for ransom is on the rise. They know that credit cards have PIN numbers, and thats the fastest safest way for them to get a lot of money in a hurry. They won't believe you when you tell them that your cards don't have PIN numbers. They'll just torture you (or your wife, while you watch) until they get a number that works. In a situation like that, it would be bad to forget your PIN number.

    When you get home, destroy the cards, change or deactivate the PINs, and get new cards.

    Oh, and no guns. Not even fake ones.

    For self protection consider a Bogen Monopod for your camera. Both the tilt head and the entension clamps are made out of cast metal, with hard lumpy knobs. The tube section is also metal. Collapsed, either end will make a good bludgeoning club. More expensive/heavy ones will hit harder.
  18. XLMiguel

    XLMiguel Senior Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Santa Fe, NM
    Mexico Sucks -

    Why would you go to Mexico? They promote a conscious effort to flood our country with illegal immigrants, drugs, and other human detrius. They don't even play fair, they are corrupt. Why are you going to Mexico?? Get a refund and go someplace that's actually friendly to the US. And re-educate your kid - nice gesture but . . . . .

    There are better beaches elsewhere. Go someplace you aren't a target of opportunity or a 'tourista sheep for shearing'. Don't support those perverts and criminals :barf:
  19. GT

    GT Member

    Feb 9, 2005
    +1 with Mike
  20. MechAg94

    MechAg94 Senior Member

    Apr 17, 2005
    I am not sure of that location, but I have heard stories that many times the bottled water is refilled from tap water (even at hotels) so you need to make sure the bottle is sealed.

    I heard one story from a girl I know about taking a cross country tour. They stopped at a little shack to get lunch. She said the raw ground beef was sitting there on a table with flies all over it. The cooks would shoo them away to get the beef to make the burgers. She said she wasn't hungry after that.

    My brother and his wife have gone a few different times to the all expenses paid resorts and had no problems at all.

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