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good compromise - SA handgun

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by chuwee81, Aug 16, 2009.

  1. chuwee81

    chuwee81 Member

    Apr 20, 2008
    Hi there. I have a co-worker who just acquired a taurus 1911. He's new to shooting and wanted me to take him to the range and shoot. well, about a month ago we did just that. Warming up, i let him shoot my sigma 9mm. I can say that I am proficient enough with it, but when we moved on with his 1911, i can't believe the grouping i had with it. I think, ...no i believe it's the nice crisp SA trigger on that thing. There's barely any takeup, light and it was just nice. I would LOVE to have a handgun with that kind of trigger.

    Now the question is, if you're familiar with 1911 trigger, what would be the best alternative for it - keep it 9mm since i have a bunch of ammo stacked up - modestly :p and not thinking of branching out to the .45's just yet.
    I can think of some, but never shot them:
    * CZ 75 or the newer poly Sp07?
    * 9mm 1911 style gun (i have no clue who makes them and the msrp)
    * Sig P226 - like the idea of a decocker - seems pretty well built.

    tried the cougar - hates it.
    Tried the PX4 storm - pretty nice but can't seem to remember the trigger on that thing.

    fire away guys, thanks
  2. KewToo

    KewToo New Member

    Aug 14, 2009
    For Cmfireman:
    Purchased a Taurus PT709 ss-slide yesterday at Houston Gunshow.
    Today, put 250 rounds through it; mixed: Win.9mm.115gr.jhp; Rem.9mm.115gr fmj; Amer. Eagle 9mm.115gr.fmj; Win.Bond 147gr.jhp (expensive but need to know for conceal carry). Your pics look like yo do have a burr on extractor. Mine does not look like that. Have some suggestions. Best, KewToo
  3. Sapper771

    Sapper771 Participating Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    11 up and 3 down
    I am not a professional, but If you enjoyed the 1911's trigger that much and the pistol must be a 9mm, I would just stick with a 1911 chambered in 9mm. I recommend the STI Trojan 9mm ($900-$1050) or the Springfield Armory Loaded model in 9mm ($700-$900). I am sure there are some other manufacturers that produce 1911s in 9mm, but those two are the ones that I have had good dealings with. I have never fired a 9mm 1911, but I have heard that it is low recoil and decently accurate. There also seems to be more problems reported from non-45 caliber 1911s, but nothing that cant be remedied.
    Honestly, the other firearms you listed in your post dont come close to being as good as the 1911 in the trigger department.

    I would stick with a 1911, but thats just me. Take a look at STI's 1911s, I have two and they are great.

    Good Luck
  4. rightside

    rightside New Member

    Mar 5, 2009
    Take a look at STI's 1911s

  5. BCRider

    BCRider Mentor

    Nov 15, 2008
    Pacific North"Wet" Coast of Canada
    I've shot a Rent-A-Gun range's STI Trojan in 9mm and it is a fantastic gun to shoot. The STI trigger and something about how the 1911 design works with 9mm makes it seem like the gun almost aims itself. And all this in a gun that has been severely beaten on. If you go the Trojan route you won't be dissapointed by any means. But they ain't cheap. If you liked your buddy's Taurus then perhaps get one just like his and then, if this will be a range only toy, get a competition trigger/sear/hammer kit installed. This is the beauty of the 1911 platform, most of the aftermarket stuff is 100% compatible.

    But if it'll be used for defense as well as play then you likely want to leave it stock or at least look into any legal/moral issues that come from a super light trigger with minimal reset.

    As for the other guns you'll never find the same SA shortness of pull and tight reset in any of the DA/SA guns listed or others like them.
  6. DFW1911

    DFW1911 Participating Member

    Sep 21, 2006
    Hill Country, TX
    My Browning Hi-Powers all have very good triggers - no smithing, just good right out of the box: they have a nice, clean break.

    You may want to check into one. It would be great if your local shop has one you can rent and / or let you put some snap caps in and dry fire a few times.
  7. David E

    David E Mentor

    Aug 3, 2008
    A 5" XD or XD-m or a S&W M&P Pro, all with a trigger job will fill that role nicely.
  8. mesinge2

    mesinge2 Senior Member

    Feb 12, 2009
    Central Florida
  9. anewconvert

    anewconvert New Member

    Apr 26, 2009
    I have the P-07. Its decently accurate (maybe very much so and needs a new idiot behind the gun) but be prepared to drop at least another $100 into sights. The stock sites leave much to be desired.
    Also its a new offering and as such holsters/accessories are just now finding their way to the market. CZ75 accessories are hit and miss with the P07. Holster don't work (square trigger guard) and the .22 kadet kit won't work (different mags) at this point.

    Otherwise a nice carry gun.

    The witness is a nice choice as it has a lot of caliber options available so one gun can shoot many different rounds as your preference/situation dictates.

  10. ezypikns

    ezypikns Participating Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Dallas, Texas
    Sigs are nice.

    I've got a P239 in 9mm with a really sweet single action trigger and a very short reset. Any of the Sigs will have a pretty good SA trigger.

    Look for a used or CPO (Certified Previously Owned) pistol to keep the price reasonable.
  11. KaceCoyote

    KaceCoyote Participating Member

    Mar 10, 2004
    St.Louis Missouri
    CZ makes a number of match oriented 9mms that have very excellent triggers, and theres a SA CZ-75
  12. JTQ

    JTQ Mentor

    Apr 6, 2009
    NW Florida
    Typically you will find the "best" triggers on a 1911. There will be some variation between manufacturers, but that platform will generally be better than other designs.

    However, your point of reference is the S&W Sigma, which while a very solid pistol, is generally know for having a very heavy and "spongy" trigger, so just about anything else will be an improvement.
  13. PO2Hammer

    PO2Hammer Senior Member

    Nov 30, 2003
    I like Sigs, but I wouldn't say their triggers are as nice as a 1911, but they are better than the average combat pistol. Take up slack, overtravel and a long, soft trigger re-set hinder the Sigs.

    There really isn't a substitute for a nice 1911's trigger other than a good revolver. My choice was a .38 Super 1911, but I handload. If you don't, a 9mm 1911 might be the best choice for accuracy.
  14. chuwee81

    chuwee81 Member

    Apr 20, 2008
    thanks for all the replies guys. Learned a lot today :)

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