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Got my CCW!-With a Catch

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by FenderBender, Jul 20, 2004.

  1. FenderBender

    FenderBender Active Member

    Well today I finally got my CCW in the mail, but with a catch as I knew there would be. In Iowa the sheriff's can make you jump through all sorts of hoops to get a permit and in my county it is a monetary restriction. In order for my permit to be valid I have to carry at least 500 dollars in cash on my person at all times while I carry. For me to use my permit I will have to be saving up for a while. I find it kind of amusing that I will be carrying this money but I can never spend it. Anyone else know of anything similar to this kind of restriction? Good news is that it is the only restriction, but I just thought I would rant.
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2004
  2. sumpnz

    sumpnz Well-Known Member

    That is just asinine. Could you post a link to the county website where it states that requirement, or scan your permit to show same (of course you should blot out any info you don't want public).

    Not that I don't believe you, but some substantiation would make letters of outrage possible.
  3. boofus

    boofus Guest

    Can you just buy and wear a nice expensive gold watch or something instead? :D
  4. FMarlon

    FMarlon Well-Known Member

    Uhhhh, what county is this?

    Considered a move to Polk county? Sheriff Anderson is great!!
  5. FenderBender

    FenderBender Active Member

    sumpnz: There is no link that states this restriction, but it is well known in my county that this the only way to get a permit. When filling out the forms there is a reason box that you must fill in. If you put in there anything but "I often carry at least 500 dollars in cash on my person" the permit will get denied. Even the clerks at the court house will tell you that is the only thing to put in there if you want one. Self defense as a reason is a no no. I will try to scan it tomorrow as I do not have a scanner at home.

    boofus: It has to be cash, not credit cards, not guns, not watches. I asked that very question and got told-cash only. Most people just take 5 100 dollar bills and wrap it around there permit and carry it like that.

    FMarlon: Linn County
  6. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    during one period, the general prohibition to carrying a handgun in Texas had an exception for carrying large sums of money to a bank for "deposit proceding by a direct route and pausing only for casual conversation along the way. "
  7. biere

    biere Well-Known Member

    Before ohio passed their moron ccw setup, having money on you was one good reason to illegally ccw. Well, not illegally. Before we got ccw laws passed you were arrested and sent before a judge or someone who decided if you had reason to ccw.

    Having the cash comes from the concept that people who run a small business by themselves always have lots of cash on them and there fore they become a target.

    A pizza delivery guy proved he had reason to ccw because he had some cash on him and he wound up shooting someone who had him deliver a pizza to what was supposed to be a hold up.

    Anyway, I don't agree with it but I know why the gov. wants that hoop hopped through before you are legal.

    Overall I get mad at anything beyond what vermont and alaska now have after the courts decided that the previous ways were unconstitutional.

    Actually I just get mad at most of this stuff. I will stop now.
  8. sumpnz

    sumpnz Well-Known Member

    And what if you just define "often carry" to once a decade? You're bound at some point over a 10 year period to have $500 on you. Then if you get stopped and don't have the money on you just claim that "often" didn't happen to include that moment in time.

    Or does the sherrif insist that you actually have that money on your person whenever you CCW. If that's the case, I should think that a possible lawsuit claiming unfair taxation/economic hardship/etc might be a possible way to get that struck down.
  9. FMarlon

    FMarlon Well-Known Member

    maybe it's for bg bait?---not a good idea in my opinion.

    Or maybe to get your lawyer on site fast?--better.

    OR maybe if you use it for self defense, then when you are arrested, the 500 will magically disappear from your personal belongings?--sounds more plausible to me.

    With apologies to all morally straight LEO's:(
  10. FenderBender

    FenderBender Active Member

    That is what you fill on the form, but it is stated on the permit as.


    Whether you carry $500 often or never, in order for the permit to be valid you have to have the money on you everytime you carry.
  11. DMK

    DMK Well-Known Member

    1) I agree with sumpnz "I often carry at least 500 dollars in cash on my person" does not equal "I always carry at least 500 dollars in cash on my person". That's a loophole big enough to drive a Mack truck though. I don't see how it's prosecutable in court.

    2) That's discrimination against the poor. Obviously, you don't like in a shall issue state, but I'd think the intent of the law is to deny a CCW to those who the Sheriff thinks may commit a crime, not those who can't afford to apply. I'd inform your representatives and your governor about this.

    EDIT: I posted before seeing the actual restriction on the licence. Man, that's an outrage. Another case of the haves and the have nots. :fire:

    Maybe you should try getting an out of state CCL that's valid in your state?
  12. FMarlon

    FMarlon Well-Known Member

    I am sorry that you have the misfortune to live in a restrictive county, but hey, at least it's not Kommiefornia:D
  13. Rebeldon

    Rebeldon Well-Known Member

    Move to another county. If you have a business, move it too. And don't even spend money in the offending county. Tell the county leaders why, and encourage others to follow your lead.

    Or just vote their butts out!
  14. sm

    sm member

    This is nuts!

    If the database should fall into wrong hands...how handy, besides the CCW - meaning guns to BGs, we can add cash on person...how convienent.

    So when this Shreriff of Bling Bling County comes up for re-election, maybe in order to "vote" for him he needs to "qualify" that vote with a $1k cash payment to the voter. Wait that is illegal...or is the Elite exempt from crime?

    When is this wonderful person up for re-election? A Pro CCW Sheriff could wipe this guys eye it sounds.
  15. Doc

    Doc Well-Known Member

    will they take a check?:neener:
  16. deej

    deej Well-Known Member

    Heh, it doesn't say "$500 CASH", now does it? So a check, made payable to your grandma, or maybe the GOA...
  17. rayra

    rayra member

    Thanks so very much for your support. Really.
  18. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Apparently, your life is worth less than $500 in your part of Iowa. Reassuring, isn't it?
  19. Rimmer

    Rimmer Well-Known Member

    So your Sheriff wants every BG in the area to know that if he robs someone and they pull a gun in self-defense he can rest assured his intended victim is good for at least $500.
  20. jhisaac1

    jhisaac1 Well-Known Member

    Just be careful handing your license and permit to the officer who stops you for speeding. It might be mis-interpreted.

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