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got this on another forum

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Joshua C, Feb 25, 2007.

  1. Joshua C

    Joshua C Well-Known Member

    after the right to keep and bear arms was mentioned, one poster called it "a stupid right". Any advice on how to deal with him? He's Quebecois if it helps.
  2. DKSuddeth

    DKSuddeth Well-Known Member

    and the other forum is????
  3. Joshua C

    Joshua C Well-Known Member

    'tis a forum for a video game mod. OF course, guy that told me this was a Canadian soldier....
  4. Crazy John

    Crazy John Member

    Very Simple. A man without a rifle is a subject and a man with a rifle is a citizen.
  5. Green Lantern

    Green Lantern Well-Known Member

    NONE of our concern, as THR frowns on forum-wars...! ;)

    As to the OP's question...to me, I think the Canadian's statement is just too vague to take apart as is. if it was me, my response would be:

    "And just why do you feel that it is a "stupid" right?"

    THEN, he will likely proceed to dig his own hole, by spouting antigun rhetoric that can be much better taken apart by logic! :D
  6. Joshua C

    Joshua C Well-Known Member

    That's what I proceeded to ask him.
  7. MikePGS

    MikePGS Well-Known Member

    Just ask him how can the government be prevented from something extreme, like forcing groups of citizens it deems undesirable into prisons or something.
  8. lamazza

    lamazza Well-Known Member

    If he feels it is a stupid right-he's in luck! He's not american so he doesn't have to worry about it. :)
  9. The Deer Hunter

    The Deer Hunter Well-Known Member

    Is it a CS:S Forum?
  10. Robert Hairless

    Robert Hairless Well-Known Member

    The only stupid right is the right to call any right "stupid."
  11. ProguninTN

    ProguninTN Well-Known Member


    He's Quebecois ? Maybe you should have him read the lyrics to "La Marseillaise". The event described in that song is important, and what led up to that is all the more reason to retain arms. (Regarding said events, I will cite Quebec's own motto, Je me souviens.) After all, Quebec's culture comes from France.
  12. Joshua C

    Joshua C Well-Known Member

    Full quote

    And, Deer Hunter, it's a UT2K4 mod forum (Ballistic Weapons)
  13. Green Lantern

    Green Lantern Well-Known Member

    So it's not a "time of trouble?" Maybe ask him if he'd be happy to put on a $2,000 suit and $1,000 watch and go for a midnight stroll in the "bad part" of any American city...;)

    Point out to him that terrorism is not a huge concern for most Americans in the terms of coming face-to-face with one, but criminals are more violent, bold, and usually drug-addled than ever.
  14. Joshua C

    Joshua C Well-Known Member

    more from him

  15. 57Coastie

    57Coastie Well-Known Member

    Joshua says,
    and asks
    I might suggest that you tell him that it may be as simple as just a matter of history.

    That is, we colonials south of our common border with the Quebecois beat the Brits, gained complete independence from the Crown, and enacted a Constitution containing a Bill of Rights which contained the Second Amendment.

    Contrast the Quebecois.

    With tongue in cheek,

  16. illspirit

    illspirit Well-Known Member

    Punching and kicking is quite useless against people with weapons. Be it criminals or tyrants. Show the anti this if he thinks he can Jackie Chan his way out of a situation where a crack head with a knife or something attacks.

    Oh, and then tell him that Jack Thompson and company think his right to free speech is stupid, so he should just turn over all his video games to them. ;)
  17. Cacique500

    Cacique500 Well-Known Member


    First of all, tell the illiterate little boy that it's BEAR not BARE.

    And he did say it was stupid before he said he didn't say it was stupid (Is he John Kerry maybe? :D)

    He can punch and kick all he wants, but that won't help him in a gunfight... :scrutiny:
  18. MikePGS

    MikePGS Well-Known Member

    Tell him that its naive to think that the government will protect you at all times. Ask him if being faced with a gun wielding foe, or even several people armed with knives or bottles he would prefer to have A: a phone to call 911 or B: a loaded pistol that he knows how to shoot accurately. Also let him know that the whole concept of holding a gun due to paranoia is really his own fear rather than yours, and that he's projecting. Then send him to this link http://www.jpfo.org/ragingagainstselfdefense.htm have him read it, and then tell you what he thinks:)
  19. Joshua C

    Joshua C Well-Known Member

    I'm asking him if he's afraid of people owning guns.....
  20. Joshua C

    Joshua C Well-Known Member

    His reply:

    Too which mine is:


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