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Grinds My Firearm Gears

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Cactus Jack Arizona, Jul 22, 2014.


    NOMI WASP member

    Mine is folks who don't follow range etiquette.
    People who start picking up my brass without even asking first.
    People who shoot other people's targets - especially the guy who shot my pistol spinner with a .300 Winmag. Then denied he shot it. He said my 9mm must have done it. .33" steel.

    That picture of the spinning target is priceless :) LOL
  2. RetiredUSNChief

    RetiredUSNChief Well-Known Member

    People who wander onto other people's private property for target shooting on a range someone else has set up (which most of the property owners I know of don't really care about, since that's why they set up the range) and then steal or damage the range equipment (which the property owners DO care about).

    Case in point is a guy at work who set up a decent steel backstop behind the dirt berm in a field on his parent's property. Someone came along and stole the entire steel set up and sold it for scrap. (Guy was caught when the police investigated local recycling centers.)

    Come on, people...
  3. buck460XVR

    buck460XVR Well-Known Member

    I didn't set up my range on private property so other folks I don't know could "wander onto" and target shoot. The reason it's on private property is to keep folks I don't know or folks I don't want there off. The crime of trespassing is just as bad as vandalism and theft as far as I'm concerned.
  4. RetiredUSNChief

    RetiredUSNChief Well-Known Member


    OK, let me rephrase that, since I obviously messed up what I intended. (Sorry about that.)

    Most property owners I know don't really care about other people using their range so long as the people who wish to do so have the common decency to ask permission. Just like when I was growing up and wanted to hunt on someone else's property. Ask first.

    Some property owners I know have set up a "shooting range" in areas so remote that it takes quite a bit to get there...and they fully realize other people are likely to also use it without bothering to ask. And these people don't really care simply because the range requires very little maintenance. It's only when theft or vandalism happens that they care.

    Of course, some people DO care (like you and many others) about other people using their range.

  5. Ranges......

    I agree with being considerate with other shooters property or not picking up spent cases without expressed permission. :mad:
    I'd add that another annoying irk is when people take small children to gun ranges or gun shops then let them wander around or not supervise them. :mad:

    I was looking at a new M&P pistol once & almost dropped it because a young kid was scampering around me.
  6. The Lone Haranguer

    The Lone Haranguer Well-Known Member

    It doesn't affect me directly, I suppose, but I don't like seeing this sort of thing.


    Pure feel-good BS, there will be hundreds more for each one destroyed, and sometimes desirable, valuable or historic firearms are lost forever.
  7. ChCx2744

    ChCx2744 Well-Known Member

    When someone who knows absolutely nothing about guns, gun ownership or shooting says or asks me something about guns, then turns around and contradicts their own statements with replies, such as "But the guy at the gun store said" or "My cop/military friend said" and believes it as solid fact. I then reply "Well your friend is incorrect" to which I am responded to with "But they are firearms experts and know more about guns than you." For example, a (Now former) friend was in the market for a pistol and opted for a Smith and Wesson Bodyguard in .380, the one with the summabich of a saftey and the laser. I tried to persuade him away from it, possibly looking at Kahr PM or CMs, Keltecs, Rugers or subcompact Glocks. He insisted on the Bodyguard because the "gunstore guy is an expert and recommended it" and that he insisted being able to have a manual external safety. After about 3 days of owning it and shooting approximately 2 magazines out of it (Less than 20 rounds) he sold it for less than what he paid, bought a Glock 26 and refuses to admit his foolishness to me anymore. We've since had a few arguments where I made it quite clear that I would not be giving him any more advice if he insists on talking down to me and taking the advice of someone who is trying to sell merchandise, instead of providing constructive recommendations.

    Also when these same people who are not very well-informed about guns try to argue the "stopping power" concept with me. It's even worse when they take their advice from someone else who they "think" is an expert and have never received any proper classroom or range instruction.
  8. Conditioning.....

    Some LE/military types get strong opinions based on their training or conditioning.
    They have it ingrained into them that what weapons they use are the best & they are to trust this weapon/ammunition selection with their safety & welfare.
    I would not always go by what a cop/security guard/service member says.
    They can offer a valid opinion based on experience or what their agency used but there are many, many choices or selections in 2014.


    TMCCOY Well-Known Member

    Yesterday walking into the gunshow, the first table I came across had bricks of 22LR for $80 each. This grinds my firearm gears.
  10. N.Schafer

    N.Schafer Well-Known Member

    "I support the 2nd and your right of self-defense BUT..."
  11. maxxhavoc

    maxxhavoc Well-Known Member

    When folks say whatever they use is best "because it's what the cops use" I have to ask if they are still driving a Crown Victoria. Or a Taurus.

    If they insist on emulating the military, they need to load FMJ in their 9mm for that "military style extra damage."
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2014
  12. Pit4Brains

    Pit4Brains Well-Known Member

    Muzzle breaks at the range. Nothing worse than having your back to a 300 Win Mag that is porting it's blast into your area.
  13. george burns

    george burns Well-Known Member

    I have run into 2 guys who took perfectly new expensive guns, one H&K 45, "looks like the P 30" and a custom S&W commander, and beat the hell out of them, scratching dropping and burying them in mud and sand, claiming that this was the true test of a carry gun.
    It isn't supposed to be pretty, it's supposed to work under the most adverse conditions. I thought it was ludicrous to do this to a new gun. Maybe I am nut's but I take care of all my guns, if one gets scratched during use, I don't allow it to bother me, like it was my new, car, but it still hurts.
    the difference is I know that it was made to take a certain amount of abuse over time, but not for no reason.
    Both these guys felt that this was the only way to trust a gun, which again to me is stupid as you could easily damage it while playing games like that.
    But each to their own.
  14. TrickyDick

    TrickyDick Well-Known Member

    When the word "Tactical" is used to describe a firearm, parts, or accessories.

    An AR is no more tactical than my Mosins. Your actions can be tactical, not objects.
  15. Sheepdog1968

    Sheepdog1968 Well-Known Member

    People who are unsafe at the range.
  16. Pit4Brains

    Pit4Brains Well-Known Member

  17. Zach S

    Zach S Well-Known Member

    Lol, I searched the Wilson Combat site for "tactical" once. I think there were three or four products it didnt find.

    I dont think they're that bad anymore, but it is still overused.
  18. Cooldill

    Cooldill Well-Known Member

    I think what grinds my firearm gears the most are people being unsafe at the range, performing mag dumps and other silliness at the range, and being "firearm know-it-alls" anywhere including the range!
  19. ojh

    ojh Well-Known Member

    Religious wars about storing, cleaning and dry firing.

    Any text that contains guages or muzzle breaks.
  20. george burns

    george burns Well-Known Member

    People who say they don't have a gun, because they might lose their temper and shoot someone. Or ones that do, but don't know if it's loaded or where, or what it is, but plan on using it if someone breaks in.

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