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Gun control logic

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Blackbeard, Aug 6, 2007.

  1. Blackbeard

    Blackbeard Well-Known Member

    I thought of an analogy to the logic behind gun control. I'm trying to work it into a concise and pointed statement that could be a T-shirt, bumper sticker or poster. Here goes:

  2. fletcher

    fletcher Well-Known Member

    Does not compute.

    The connection you make in your example makes sense, but it just doesn't seem to jump out - a little too wordy.
  3. Dravur

    Dravur Well-Known Member


    an oxymoron if there ever was one.

    Gun Control logic...
    Jumbo Shrimp....
  4. MachIVshooter

    MachIVshooter Well-Known Member

    Maybe something like this:

    Disarming the population to stop violence is like killing a person to stop an infection from spreading.
  5. glummer

    glummer Well-Known Member

    Insert this between the 2 sentences:

    " He finds that some of the sheep are growing fangs in response. And they are angry with him for not protecting them better. This makes him very uneasy."
  6. 1911 guy

    1911 guy Well-Known Member

    Bumper sticker length.

    Maybe shorten the verbiage to something like this:

    If your sheep were being eaten by wolves, would you pull their teeth or the wolves'?
  7. Dannavyret

    Dannavyret member

    How about....

    4 out of 5 Death Camp Commandants chose disarmed victims.
  8. obxned

    obxned Well-Known Member

    Stalin, Hitler, and Chairman Mao all support gun control.
  9. Blackbeard

    Blackbeard Well-Known Member

    I'm in line with the anti-totalitarian nature of gun rights, to be sure. However, that's not the point I'm illustrating with my analogy. The point is about the relationship between crime (the wolves) and the weapons (teeth), and how it makes no sense to relieve the victims (the sheep) of their weapons. But since you don't control the wolf, you can't pull his teeth and the sheep are still in danger despite your best tooth control.
  10. Shear_stress

    Shear_stress Well-Known Member

    Oh, no, the omnipotent sheep dog will always be there to prevent a wolf attack. Those uppity sheep would probably just bite eachother if they were allowed to keep their teeth.
  11. Mokothar

    Mokothar Member

    The government passing legislation to disarm criminals is like a mute ordering a blind man about in sign language.

    Sheep dogs are to keep sheep in line, not wolves at bay :p
    So that's actually a pretty good analogy.
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2007
  12. ArfinGreebly

    ArfinGreebly Moderator Emeritus

    Farmer? Sheep?

    We need a different metaphor.

    The farmer OWNS the sheep.

    They are property.

    The metaphor is broken out of the gate.

    So, we can do different kinds of animals or whatever, but the moment the guy responsible for their safety OWNS them, we've got problems.

    Kings and princes and emperors and stuff.
  13. Debunk Brady

    Debunk Brady Active Member

    There used to be a list of about 40 of these.
  14. Smokewagon45

    Smokewagon45 Well-Known Member

    The term, Gun Control logic, is an oxymoron.
  15. IA_farmboy

    IA_farmboy Well-Known Member

    Gun free zone == Unarmed victim zone.

    Gun control, the theory that a 110 pound women has the right to fight hand to hand with a 210 pound rapist. (paraphrased from someone's sig right here on THR)

    A gun is a tool. No more, no less. Just like a hammer can be used to destroy or build, a gun can be used as an offensive or defensive weapon.

    Take a look around here ( http://www.a-human-right.com/ ) for some ideas.
  16. glummer

    glummer Well-Known Member

    More importantly, they might get uppity with the farmer.
    On the contrary, the metaphor is completely accurate - from the point of view of Boxstein & Co. We ARE sheep, and we exist to be sheared (and occasionaly slaughtered), and our shepherds grow quite uneasy if we show signs of growing fangs.
  17. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

    My personal favorite (stolen from somewhere):

    "Gun control is like trying to prevent drunk driving by keeping sober people from buying cars"
  18. igpoobah

    igpoobah Well-Known Member

    I like that one...
  19. cwmcgu2

    cwmcgu2 Well-Known Member

    Gun Control is based upon flawed "If..Then" arguments. It is a textbook case of a logical fallacy.
  20. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Well-Known Member

    A farmer's sheep are being attacked by wolves. The sheep beat back the wolves with tooth and hoof. The farmer, seeing the dead and wounded wolves, worry that the sheep might take their newfound ability, become violent because of it, and do the same to each other. He has their teeth pulled and their hooves filed off, knowing that he and the sheepdog are there to protect the sheep. One night, as the farmer and sheepdog sleep, the wolves creep in. The sheep raise a mighty cry. The farmer and sheepdog race to the rescue only to find all the sheep dead, killed and eaten by the wolves in the few minutes it took to arrive.

    Last edited: Aug 9, 2007

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