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Gun rags and a review of 380 autos

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by atblis, Nov 30, 2008.

  1. atblis

    atblis Well-Known Member

    One of the magazines currently on the stands has a review of four different 380 autos.
    Keltec P3AT
    Ruger LCP
    Two others that escape my memory.

    Anyways. They had a ranking table for various aspects; accuracy, reliability, trigger maybe,... don't remember all of them. The Keltec had the number 1 ranking as best for all aspects.

    So anyways, the Author spends the last page of the article explaining why you should buy the Ruger despite the Keltec being better in all catagories as reviewed by several different shooters. Apparently the Ruger is just prettier or something. I thought it was pretty dang funny and was chuckling the whole time I read it.

    How do these magazines even pretend to have any credibility when they pull crap like that?
  2. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    The don't.

    But Ruger buys way more add space in that mag then Kel-Tec I betcha!

  3. atblis

    atblis Well-Known Member

    I looked for the full page Ruger ad, didn't see it.
  4. jocko

    jocko Well-Known Member

    indeed buy

    the kt, I will stick with my Ruger lcp. I've owned both of them.
  5. skeptiq

    skeptiq Well-Known Member

    Because a company started in 1991 like Kel Tec could never compete with a company that has been around as long as Ruger. Obviously I say that tongue in cheek. Basically what I have noticed within all my hobbies, is although reviews can be helpful, I have learned to trust those that have first hand experience. You never know if a particular rag has an ulterior motive for one manufacturer over another. For example, if Ruger spends mass money in ads for whatever rag you were reading, it would be in that rags best interest to not give a Ruger a bad review. It would be easy for Ruger to pull their ad money and give it to another rag that strokes their ego better. That's why these boards are a great source of review. Obviously some people are brand loyal, but you can get some great info and make the most informed decision you can.
  6. Shawnee

    Shawnee member

    I'll be the first person to say the gun-zines put out a trainload (or two) of pure, 14k B.S.

    But many times I've seen "ratings categories" skewed to "lead" someone to the conclusion that a certain product is better when - in fact, the rating categories are of only modest importance (if any) to the user.

    For instance one .380 may weigh an ounce less than another so it "wins " in that category. Big Deal. In the Real World that ounce is meaningless.

    One thing I can absolutely assure everyone about gun-zines is that the B.S. will never cease.

  7. 06

    06 Well-Known Member

    Have had a few 380s and liked them all. Now carrying a Makarov(9X18) verses the 9X17 380. It is a good little shooter of moderate size and weight. I like the double action but the safety is hard to thumb throw. My son has a Sig 380 that I really really like, wc
  8. hemiram

    hemiram Well-Known Member

    I've had a bunch of .380's and I was only sad to see the Beretta 84 and Browning BDA 380 go. Even the PPK wasn't missed.
  9. R.W.Dale

    R.W.Dale Well-Known Member

    Just remember at one time Ruger was looked upon in much the same light Kel Tec is now. A newcomer upstart company making cheap junk.
  10. DawgFvr

    DawgFvr Well-Known Member

    Ruger .380 = Kel Tec .380

    Give me a break...it's not like Ruger did any research and development and actually designed their copy of Kel Tec's .380 masterpiece of a .380 auto design anyhoo.
  11. BlackHand1917

    BlackHand1917 Well-Known Member

    I had a chuckle over that article too!
  12. skeptiq

    skeptiq Well-Known Member

    Not intending to derail the OP's thread, but what are some good rags to read? What rag is referenced, Kel Tec vs Ruger?
  13. atblis

    atblis Well-Known Member

    I don't remember exactly which mag it was. There seem to be several that are all put out by the same publisher (guns and ammo maybe), but have different themes.
  14. Darth AkSarBen

    Darth AkSarBen Well-Known Member

    Saw that same article as well. Kel Tec P3AT had the best overall. I just prefer my Bersa Thunder 380 Good feel and excellent shooter. It has sights where the Kel Tec does not?
    This pistol is quite a shooter, huh?

    This is a 5 shot group by the way.

    Attached Files:

  15. eazyasone23

    eazyasone23 Member

    Its the newest issue of handguns mag. It has keltec, ruger, NAA, and Cobra as the guns that get reviews.
  16. mr.trooper

    mr.trooper Well-Known Member

    Sig 232 is by far the best overall 380, IMO.
  17. jlh26oo

    jlh26oo Well-Known Member

    Was the Sig among the other two? They are probably focusing on the very smallest of .380's here only, so I'd be surprised to see the P232 competing with the likes of the K.T. and L.C.P. etc. But that would be nice if it were included. I'll check it out anyways. Thanks O.P.

    B.T.W. you're saying in this article the author actually graded one pistol higher- in every category- then gave the other one his final recommendation?

  18. BULLSI

    BULLSI Well-Known Member


    At what distance did you shoot to get the five shot group?
  19. SwampWolf

    SwampWolf Well-Known Member

    When it comes to handguns, I like the American Handgunner best. For all types of firearms, the American Rifleman, Rifle and Guns are the ones I prefer. And when it comes to "B.S.", reading gun magazines and reading the stuff you find on the internet have some things in common: don't believe everything you read; use your own common sense and do your own independent research and field testing whenever possible.
  20. moooose102

    moooose102 Well-Known Member

    well, the ruger IS prettier than the kel-tec! what you have to remember, is to use these "comparisons" as just that. what the magazine says "wins" is purely subjective. what is important to the author may not be all that important to you. so read the articals, do more of your own research, and DECIDE FOR YOURSELF which is the "winner". these articals can be a great source of information. use them as such. and, by the way, i agree with the "ruger buys more ads than kel-tec" line of thinking. money talks!

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