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Gun Safe Problems

Discussion in 'Shooting Gear and Storage' started by DS Gun, Aug 11, 2009.

  1. DS Gun

    DS Gun Active Member

    Less than a year ago I bought a gun safe. I got it from Sam's Club and it says Western Winchester on the front. It has a SecuRAM electronic combination controller.

    We went on a vacation for 12 days and we just got home. I thought it would be a good idea to lock up my car keys in the safe just to be extra careful since the car would be sitting in the garage. Of course I also have a bunch of other stuff in there as well. The problem is now I can't get into the $%# thing! I have never had any problems but today I enter the 6 digit code and it just beeps twice and nothing. I try again and it beeps twice and then beeps every 5 seconds for 5 minutes. The password is 100% accurate so that is not the problem. I have not been this stressed out for ages... I am of course worried about my other items but I need those car keys to get to work.

    Has anyone else ever had this problem? Recommendations? I replaced the 9 Volt battery with a new one and that didn't work. I am planning on calling the SecuRam company tomorrow but wanted to check here for suggestions also. I am so pissed. If I didn't spend so much money on that safe I would be drilling/sawing/whatever to get inside.

    Thanks for any help. :banghead::banghead::banghead:
  2. That's why I didn't get the electronic lock:) Sorry to hear about your problem. Good Luck.
  3. lebowski

    lebowski Well-Known Member

    I think you're going to have to call a locksmith.

    Thank you, by the way. I'm in the market for a safe and was on the fence between a mechanical vs. electronic lock, I think you have convinced me to go w/ the mechanical.
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2009
  4. Yo Mama

    Yo Mama Well-Known Member

    Mechanical all the way. Your battery died which usually defaults the code, and this is going to cost you a house call. Sorry bud.

    TXHORNS Well-Known Member

    sounds like your safe could be made by granite safe. you may try calling them. they are in fort worth, tx. they make/made alot of safes for winchester and bass pro shops under the redhead brand. a locksmith can drill it open too but it still wont work properly. did you get any paperwork with the safe? mine is a granite from bass pro and has a pretty good warranty although i cant rememeber what it is. good luck!
  6. preachnhunt

    preachnhunt Well-Known Member

    Sometimes mine won't open and I turn the handle hard right first and then left and it opens. Other than that it sounds like time for a locksmith.
  7. DS Gun

    DS Gun Active Member

    I do have some paperwork and it is by Granite Security Products. I am going to give them a call tomorrow. It has been less than a year since getting this safe. I was worried about getting an all electronic lock and now I wish I had listened to my worries. Never again.

    The original battery was fine and the keys still beeped when pressed. I only replaced the battery to ensure the battery wasn't the issue.
  8. Dr_2_B

    Dr_2_B Well-Known Member

    Yup, I've had a few safe issues before too. Looks like you're gonna need some help.
  9. Trebor

    Trebor Well-Known Member

    When you call the locksmith out, ask him how much to convert it to a mechanical lock and if he can bring that with him on the first trip.

    Everytime I've talked to a locksmith they recommened mechanical locks over electronic locks. They've just seen too many electronic locks fail and replacing them can be a regular occurence.
  10. DS Gun

    DS Gun Active Member

    Thank you thank you thank you preachnhunt! I tried doing what you said twice and the second time around I heard the locks release. I grabbed those car keys so fast you can't imagine. I wonder what happened and whether I should be worried about it breaking down now. It was so expensive and so hard to move around to just get rid of it. I have not closed it yet but tried the keypad several times with the door open and it is working fine now.
  11. DS Gun

    DS Gun Active Member

    I wonder if I could change it to a mechanical lock, that would be nice. I know that would probably void my warranty but the warranty is only for a year anyways.
  12. kanewpadle

    kanewpadle Well-Known Member

    Looks as though your safe has the same foot print as a traditional combination lock. It will have to be professionaly installed by a locksmith or safe technician. Make sure you call someone who know's what they are doing.

    I am installing a digital lock on a safe for the local sheriffs dept. I tried to convince them not to but they insisted. So be it.
  13. a1abdj

    a1abdj Well-Known Member

    You had back pressure on the lock. This is where the bolt work of the safe is resting against the bolt of the lock. The little solenoid inside isn't strong enough to operate properly due to that pressure and voila, you get the proper beep indicating a correct combo, but the handle won't turn.

    Common problem with gun safes, and the solution you just learned will work every time if that's the only problem. You can also put pressure on the handle in the locking direction and hold it while entering your combo.

    Most UL rated locks are interchangeable. You can easily switch from an electronic to mechanical and vice versa.
  14. Kingcreek

    Kingcreek Well-Known Member

    the high quality and the broad spectrum of information on this site never ceases to amaze me.
    long live The High Road.
  15. trimore

    trimore Well-Known Member

    I am in the market for a safe as well. Good to know.

    I think I have decided on a mechanical dial rather than digital though. I would prefer that it last "forever" and I definately don't trust the electronic lock to do that.
  16. USSR

    USSR Well-Known Member

    My safe (Sentry) has the best of both worlds. I can remove the electronic key pad from the door and have access to the key lock.

  17. DS Gun

    DS Gun Active Member

    I would like to be able to open this one with a key as well, that would be nice. I am going to research switching this one to a mechanical lock. Thanks all for the help!

    TXHORNS Well-Known Member

    Im happy you got it open and also happy I learned this trick since I have a similar safe. Good thing I joined this site!
  19. jakemccoy

    jakemccoy Well-Known Member

    Can any expert here comment on the security of a lock with a key option. Is a pure combination lock without the key option more secure?

    It seems like a key option adds a path of entry that may be easily compromised by someone who can pick locks. Plus, people tend to place such keys somewhere in the house, like in their nightstand or in their "secret hiding place" that isn't really too secretive.
  20. dieselkanic

    dieselkanic Active Member

    Now just think if it had been a SHTF situ and you were trying to get your guns out of the safe...

    Like many who think guns should be 'locked away' would have you store them... in a safe.

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