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gun terms, where do they come from?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by breakingcontact, Nov 11, 2012.

  1. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard New Member

    I have a background in guns and show business. I have NEVER, nor have I ever heard of anyone else refer to a gun as an understudy.
  2. allaroundhunter

    allaroundhunter New Member

    All guns are weapons but not all weapons are guns. The intent or use of a gun does not determine whether it is a weapon, it is one inherently.

    However, it is the connotation associated with "weapon" that leads many to see anything classified as one as a bad thing.
  3. Warp

    Warp Active Member

    Every gun is a weapon as much as every knife is a weapon.

    Is my butter knife a weapon?
  4. breakingcontact

    breakingcontact New Member

    Good point about weapon vs firearm. I come to guns through the military not hunting. It would be a disservice for me to turn off any new gun people by calling a firearm a weapon.

    All squares are rectangles and what not...
  5. KAS1981

    KAS1981 New Member

    Gun dorks like to say "press" a lot.

    Press the trigger. Front sight press. Press check.
  6. 9mmepiphany

    9mmepiphany Moderator

    When referring to trigger management:
    1. Press is a more accurate term and less prone to misinterpretation than Pull or Squeeze. The first causes folks to not move the trigger straight back, the second causes folks to tighten the whole hand...both lead to poor shot placement. It is a training solution.
    2. Front Sight, Press describes the process and is related to the above.

    Press Check was the term coined to describe the preferred chamber check method, back in the 60's, for the 1911. It is used incorrectly when used to describe other methods
  7. allaroundhunter

    allaroundhunter New Member

    It's funny how these "gun dorks" are the ones who churn out some of the best shooters...
  8. 1911fan

    1911fan New Member

    Raymond Chandler was born in Chicago and raised in Nebraska until he was twelve, when his family moved to London. Seven years later, he became a British subject. Although he moved back to San Franciso when he was twenty-four, he remained a British subject until well over sixty, at which time he reclaimed his American citizenship.

    Looks like we're BOTH right.

  9. Haxby

    Haxby New Member

    Yeah, he was sorta British. It never occurred to me that he over 50 years old when The Big Sleep was published.
  10. cfullgraf

    cfullgraf Active Member

    I had always thought the term "revolver" referred to handgun with a revolving cylinder and a "pistol" referred to a semi-auto handgun.

    A check of Wikapedia, and you can take that with a grain of salt, says a pistol is a subset of handguns with the chamber integral with the barrel. This would include semi-autos, single shot, and revolving pepper box.

    Wikapedia says a revolver is a single barrel handgun with a rotating cylinder of chambers separate from the barrel.

    In this case, Wikapedia supports what i had believed for more than 30 years, although covering a wider scope.

    Check here.


    But sometimes, there is not a distinction. The British do not. See here.

    Last edited: Nov 14, 2012
  11. JohnBT

    JohnBT Active Member

    "What confuses people about the differences"

    We're not confused, we don't care. If clip was good enough for my father who served in the Pacific in WWII, it's good enough.

    I do have an objection to 'understudy pistol'. An understudy in the theater world must be completely prepared to step in if the star can't go on, and also must be capable of doing the real job, not just the practicing and rehearsing.

    "A person who learns another's role in order to be able to act as a replacement at short notice."
  12. benEzra

    benEzra Moderator Emeritus

    One meaning of "purchase" has always been "surety of grip or footing".

    An "understudy" is a term from theater. Per wikipedia, "an understudy is a performer who learns the lines and blocking/choreography of a regular actor or actress in a play."

    These are just allusions to terms from the broader language and culture, not necessarily gun related.
  13. Warp

    Warp Active Member

    Understudy is every bit as accurate (when describing a .22lr version of a centerfire) as clip is (when describing a magazine). Actually...understudy is even better/more accurate. In the case of clip vs magazine, using the wrong one is actually using the wrong one.
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2012
  14. 9mmepiphany

    9mmepiphany Moderator

    If this statement is true, it shouldn't bother you when people correct you ;)
  15. chicharrones

    chicharrones Active Member

    I've read the term "purchase" in gun magazines for at least 20 years. I'm sure it was used in gun magazines before that. The weird thing is, I never have seen "purchase" used in that way in any other type of writing. To me, the use of that word still sounds like it is meant to be above my class in society.

    All the other gun specific terms that I can think of actually make sense to me, so far. :cool:
  16. 9mmepiphany

    9mmepiphany Moderator

    The most common interchangeable word is foothold or traction and is usually used in conjunction with the adjective increased or the verb to establish. It's meaning is more about maintaining...it is more permanent, while the other words are usually transitory

    I've seen it used in reference to rock climbing and free climbing...as well as marketing and starting a small business
  17. Warp

    Warp Active Member

    It shows up in cars/vehicle/racing discussions and writings sometimes as well, and I am sure I've read about purchase referring to the souls of shoes/boots
  18. chicharrones

    chicharrones Active Member

    I've never been a climber, so I missed out on that. Shoes with cleats I've worn in sports, and I never thought of them purchasing the turf before. :D
  19. 9mmepiphany

    9mmepiphany Moderator

    You're using/understanding the word incorrectly.

    They wouldn't purchase, they would give you purchase on the turf...it is more of a gerund, than a verb

    Correct usage would be something like, "These cleats give me better purchase on this slippery turf and allow me to change direction more efficiently"
  20. twofifty

    twofifty New Member

    So then, understudy pistol = BUG ?

    Last edited: Nov 15, 2012

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