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Guns that have been stolen from Springfield Armory Musuem

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by sturmruger, Jul 30, 2004.

  1. sturmruger

    sturmruger Senior Member

    Jan 4, 2003
    NW, WI
    I did a search to see if I could turn up a thread that talked about this. The morale of the story is if you are buying an expensive antique gun make sure it isn't stolen from Uncle Sam.

    Historic Firearm Returned to Armory Museum
    Oct 7th, 2003

    National Park Service
    U.S. Department of the Interior Springfield Armory
    National Historic Site

    One Armory Square
    Springfield MA 01105-1299

    413.734.8551 phone
    413.747.8062 fax

    Springfield Armory NHS News Release

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Supt. J. Douglas Cuillard
    September 26, 2003 413-734-6478 x 226

    Historic Firearm Returned to Armory Museum

    A rare historic firearm, stolen 45 years ago, was recovered by the FBI and returned to its rightful home in the Springfield Armory Museum. FBI officials handed over the weapon to the Springfield Armory National Historic Site staff and Congressman Richard Neal in a September 26th ceremony.

    The firearm, a Model 1839 Musketoon, was recovered by the FBI from a private collector who had innocently purchased the arm at auction. The musketoon is a “United States Model†arm and is designated on the weapon as “USM.†The weapon is valued at $50,000 and likely the only model known to exist. After a thorough examination, cleaning, and full documentation, it will be put on display for the public to view.

    Armory National Historic Site Superintendent, J. Douglas Cuillard states, “We are very grateful to the FBI for taking the lead and recovering this weapon that belongs to all Americans. And we hope that this action will lead to the recovery of other historic weapons missing from the Armory’s world famous Benton Small Arms Collection.â€

    Throughout its long history as an Army museum, opening to the public in 1871, many other weapons in the collection were stolen or are missing. There is no statue of limitations on stolen federal property and, the National Park Service is actively seeking the missing weapons. The Springfield Armory National Historic Site, under the management of the National Park Service was established in 1978.

    Attached is a partial list of weapons that are documented as stolen from the Springfield Armory Museum and an example of a firearm taken from one other National Park museum. Anyone with information on these arms is encouraged to contact either:
    Clark D. Guy, Special Agent in Charge
    Northeast Regional Office
    National Park Service
    U.S. Custom House
    200 Chestnut Street, Fifth Floor
    Philadelphia, PA 19106 Fax: 215-597-8641 Tel: 215-597-7135

    Or Contact:

    Springfield Armory National Historic Site
    Attn: Law Enforcement Ranger
    One Armory Square – Suite 2
    SPRINGFIELD, MA. 01105

    TEL: 413-734-6478 x. 232
    FAX: 413-747-8062

    To view the list, click here

    I could be wrong but this one sounds like it is the most valuable.

  2. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    Dec 19, 2002
    Wasn't Vicksburg or some other National Park Battlefield site recently burgled and a couple of historic revolvers stolen? :cuss: Those guns belong to "we the people" and the rascal who abscounded with them should be sentenced to community service.

    Dress him up as a soldier and reenact those wonderful Civil War punishments. Buck & Gag, horse riding (straddle a plank that is astride two barrels) tied up by the thumbs. Barrel shirt with "thief" on it and made to parade around the park at bayonet point. Must also explain his crime to the public and pose for pics. Cruel & unusual? Naw... it's reenacting.

    BTW, if any artifact (including a firearm) is traced as stolen from a museum and they want it back, give it back & cooperate with the FBI (FBI handles theft from museums). Any refusal is fine & time.
  3. Chipperman

    Chipperman Senior Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    Essex Co, MA
    I wonder if the buyer has any recourse against the auction house.
  4. George Hill

    George Hill Mentor

    Dec 22, 2002
    Uintah Basin, UT
    I'm surprised the FBI didn't just cut it up.
  5. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    Dec 19, 2002
    I think where objects are stolen and sold by the auction house, the auction house has to reimburse the buyer. I'm given to understand that they have the responsibility of verifying the provenance (ownership & title) of an object and that when they auction it off they are also guaranteeing clear title to it. That's why museums and good auction houses keep all those old catalogs. They can actually trace the ownership of some paintings and art work back a few centuries.:eek:

    I guess that's why my coupon and boxtops for the Mona Lisa wasn't honored by the Louvre.

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