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Have you ever had to use it?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by DonNikmare, Feb 14, 2004.

  1. DonNikmare

    DonNikmare Member

    Jan 3, 2004
    DFW, TX
    We talk/write so much about so many different holsters to carry concealed, so many different training techniques for self defense, etc. etc....
    There seems to be an army of well trained, armed, and ready gun owners here in the USA, which gives me comfort if things dramatically change and this country is ever seriously attacked.
    Putting all wild scenarios and paranoia aside...

    Have you or someone very close to you ever had to use a handgun or other firearm for self-defense?

    If so, please share the situation if you comfortable with doing so.

    (By "use it" I mean unholstering it, showing it, referring to it, etc. not necessarily pulling the trigger. I'm pretty sure not many who have actually pulled the trigger would care to share anything about it here.)

    Why am I asking....
    1. Desire to learn from others' experiences
    2. Considering getting CHL and wondering if it is really worth the responsibility, the hassle, and the cost.
    3. Curiosity


    links to old threads if they exist on this topic are welcome
  2. SMLE

    SMLE Participating Member

    Nov 9, 2003
    Albuquerque New Mexico
    In twenty years, I've had to draw only once. But I was darn glad I had the pistol that night. A friend and I were driving home late one night and at one point we pulled up behind another car a ta stop sign. A black male opened the passenger door and yelled something at us. I could not understand what. He got back in the car, the back up lights came on and they hit us. Then the black guy and a large Indian got out and walked back down either side of my car. My friend and I thought we were in the middle of a "bump and rob" act. We both drew our 1911s and when the big Indian got to my door, I aimed the pistol at him, dropped the safety and ordered him to back up. He did so, and got VERY co-operative. There was no damage to the cars and when he jumped back into the other car and left, I let him since no felony had been committed. When the cops showed up, they knew the black guy. He was a male prostitute. What he had yelled , he claimed, was for us to call the cops. It seems that the Indian had hired him for sexual favors then refused to pay.

    I know this. While I was looking over the sights at him, I had absolutly NO DOUBT I could have pulled that trigger if he had not backed off and become compliant.
  3. stv

    stv Member

    Nov 18, 2003
    SF CA
    There's an excellent thread on the same topic here, including a very hairy encounter by QuarterBoreGunner. :eek:
  4. Snowdog

    Snowdog Senior Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Hendersonville, WNC
    Nothing fancy, just tooling around town on my old 700cc Virago (my first bike), taking all the roads I've never taken to become more familiar with my bike and prospective shortcuts.
    While turning around on a country road, a stray (or loose) German shepherd got way too close and too fast for comfort in a less-than-playful manner.
    So I pulled my K9 from my Bianchi bellyband and pointed it at the dog, believing he would latch on to my leg before I could position the bike to speed off. If you aren't familiar with GSDs, they can move!

    Fortunately stopped about 5 feet away, giving me an odd "so what do we do now" look.
    Revving the throttle while in neutral seemed to further undermine his resolve.
    Putting away the K9, I put the bike in gear and sped off with the dog giving chase (but the bike's faster :) ).

    I was really hoping I wouldn't have to shoot it as I have a GSD of my own; they're great dogs!
    I think this particular GSD was just a professional car chaser.

    A GSD is a great dog, but scary if it's not yours. Here's my GSD showing his contempt for my squirt gun (but he's friendly and playful, really!)

    More as a preemptive strike, a few years ago I shot a seriously pissed-off tom cat at a friend's farm at the owner’s request (it had injured his daughter's cat and attacked his wife twice). I used the K9 with 115gr Triton Quik-Shoks, ruining the hay bale he was perched on. No more bad kitty after that. I also got a taste of how loud a K9 is without hearing protection. :eek:

    On a more serious note, I've never drawn my K9 on a person and pray I'm never in a position that requires that.
  5. GD

    GD Active Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    I did last night.
    Scenario: Wife comes running in the house. Outside is a skunk running around in circles with our cats in danger being in the proximity of a possible rabid skunk. Since this is 2 hours before sunset and it is acting weird, there is a strong chance it is rabid. The skunk is dispatched with two shots from a .22 buckmark. Family and cats are now safe. Chaulk up another defensive use of a handgun.
  6. Kentucky Rifle

    Kentucky Rifle Member In Memoriam

    Dec 23, 2002
    Louisville, Ky.
    In peace time~only pulled it once. Didn't have to fire.

    In war time~Well, you know. I was young. I wanted to live.

  7. OF

    OF Senior Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    In addition to all the other threads on this subject which can be found using the 'search' function in the upper right hand corner, there is a currently active thread HERE.

    The original poster there ("The Rabbi") seems to be of the opinion that bad things don't happen to people, so if we could post our experiences there it would, I'm sure, assist in his 'research' on this topic.

    - Gabe
  8. SMLE

    SMLE Participating Member

    Nov 9, 2003
    Albuquerque New Mexico

    I get the impression he is of the opinion that bad things don't happen to the majorityof people who carry, which I think is true. I've carried for 20 years and only had to draw once. I don't get the impression that he is fishing for rationals against carrying, just looking for a realistic idea of how often carriers actually have to resort to their guns. Just like the starter of this thread.
  9. mountainclmbr

    mountainclmbr Participating Member

    Oct 25, 2003
    On top of a mountain in Colorado
    I posted my reply there.
  10. LiquidTension

    LiquidTension Senior Member

    Jan 28, 2003
  11. Ky Larry

    Ky Larry Senior Member

    May 22, 2003
    I used a Ruger Black Hawk .357 to make a person with a straight razor leave me alone. A careful,close up examination of the bore of my revolver helped this person rethink their interpersonal relationship patterns. He chose to vacate the area post haste.:D
  12. cool45auto

    cool45auto Senior Member

    Mar 11, 2003
    Cleveland, Georgia
    Never have.

    Well said KR.
  13. Nightfall

    Nightfall Participating Member

    Feb 24, 2003
    Yes! One time I was at a shooting range, and out of nowhere these strange, orange alien saucers made of clay started attacking! I did what had to be done. None survived... :D

    Sorry, couldn't resist. Just wanted to be silly.
  14. Ala Dan

    Ala Dan Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Home Of The First Capitol Of The Confederate State
    Back in the 70's I carried a S&W 6" model 19 as a
    reserve deputy sheriff in a major Alabama county
    sheriffs department. About 0200 hrs in the early
    AM, we proceeded to chase a vechile at speeds
    exceeding 100 mph, for a distance estimated
    to have been seven miles. Once we got the car
    stopped, the occupant hit the electric locks on
    the vechiles doors and locked them tighter than
    Dicks hat ban. I was driving, so I approached
    the vechile and ordered the suspect out of the
    car; at which time, he simply slid down further
    into the seat and placed his right hand into the
    console. When I saw this, I took one step back
    drew the 6" S&W model 19 from its duty rig and
    pointed it at the drivers side window, in line with
    and behind the drivers left ear for fear that I was
    about to be shot! For some unknown and still
    unexplained reason, the perp decided to call the
    dogs off; turned his interior light on, unlocked the
    doors, and threw his hands into the air. At this
    time, I reholstered the model 19 approached the
    drivers door and removed the driver; who was
    the only person in the vechile. After administring
    a field sobriety test, the young man was placed
    under arrest for DUI.

    Case in point, all is well that ends well. About a
    month later at court, the lad plead guilty to DUI
    and was fined $174 + the cost of court. When
    exiting the courtroom, the offender came to my
    partner an I and apologized; thanking us for
    saving his life or the lives of others!

    Best Wishes,
    Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
  15. ID_shooting

    ID_shooting Participating Member

    Feb 1, 2004
    Boise, ID
    I the civilian world I have only drawn twice and fired once.

    Non-fire incident. I used to work the 3pm to midnight shift and kept a smitty 910 in my truck. I was on my home and was turning off of one street onto another and accidentally cut a guy off that I didn't see. well, I pulled off and slowed way down to let the guy by. I waved and made what I thought was the "I'm sorry" expression. Well, he went ballistic and was beside me paing me, I tried slowing down, speeding up, he just wouldn't let me alone. He kept pushing me over and alomost had me in the ditch when I nailed the binders and stopped. He pulled his car in so I couldn't move and bailed out of his car. He started shouting that he was gonna kick my a** and a bunch of other stuff you wouldn't say in church. When he got to my window he was looking down the barrel of mr 9mm. I told him I was sorry for cutting him and I would try not to do it again. I dont think he heard me cuz he jumped in his car and peeled rubber. I have had many people tell me that I was wrong for brandishing but I say, F it! That guy should't have gotten all worked up.

    Now for the other one. Very similar to the above bike story, I was tooling down a country road on my bike when a greman shepard came out of a yard and grabbed my boot and pulled me off the bike. After I picked my self up the dog was right on top of me, out came mr smitty and the guy came running out of his house, I told him to get his dog and he just stood there yelling as his dog was getting all frumpy. Well, the dog jupped at me and grabbed the barrel, well, I hate the feeling but I vented the dog. The guy called the cops and when I showed him the bite mark on my boot, the bike on it's side and the dog drool on the gun he looked to the guy and told him to meek the next one in his yard. I still feel bad for the guy. not fun watching you dog die.
  16. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    Just once. The woman lived. The rapist who'd been paroled from prison about five weeks earlier... Well, the less said, the better.
  17. bpisler

    bpisler Participating Member

    Dec 30, 2002
    About 5 years ago i was headed home from work.Setting at a red light i heard a man yelling to himself,he was 25-30 ft away when we made eye contact.He pulled a large butchers knife out from be hind his back and started to make a beeline for right side of my car.I drew my stainless security 6,pointed it at his chest and asked him to leave me alone.He turned around and went back the way he came from,still yelling and waving the knife around.I pulled into the next parking lot i could find and called the police,explained what had happened.They asked me to sit tight,a officer would contact me,after 30-45 minutes i called back and was informe they didn't find the guy and i could leave.Yes i was scared and i would have pulled the trigger if i needed to but i'am glad i didn't have to.
  18. Ryder

    Ryder Senior Member

    Dec 31, 2002
    I've done the opposite. Used a blade in response to a handgun threat. Amazing how co-operative people get when there isn't any choice. :D
  19. Jim K

    Jim K Elder

    Dec 31, 2002
    In several years as a deputy sheriff, I drew once, displayed the gun once, and told a person I was armed once. No shots fired. And that is the best way if you can do it.

    In civilian carry, I never drew or even came close to needing to.

  20. Atticus

    Atticus Senior Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Several times. Once had a burglar coming through my window at 4 am. Unfortunately for him, I had just gotten home from a bar - fortunately for him, I didn't shoot him. Another time, a drunk was beating down my door looking for his cheating wife/girl friend ( I didn't know her). He sobered up quickly when greeted by my 100 lb German Shepard, and me with a 12 gauge. There were several other occassions when I was a student and pumping gas for a living.
    Some nights, I felt like I was in a Sergio Leone movie - two hombres staring across a counter at each other- each with a hand in a coat pocket, or behind the back, a bead of sweat forming on our brows. That happened twice, and then I quit. The guy who replaced me was robbed almost weekly after I left. Ahh... the good ol $2.55/hour days.

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