Hearing for New York State Pistol License

[Ohen Cepel]

Good luck.

Reading this just fills me with dread about my pending move there. Will go from toting a machine gun daily to not being trusted having my own pistols in my possession

I should have fought harder to stay in the South!

 

[NonConformist]

Its sad we even have to go through such crap when we already have the right to bear arms. Its part of the 2A.

America, where'd it go?

 

[GlockGirl4]

I live in niagara county in ny.
i am going for my 3rd interview today. this time it is with the judge.
wish me luck.. and wow ny does make it hard to get your permit.
i have been waiting for my approval for a year and a half already.

april

any advise for my court meeting today???

 

[gym]

Caliban,To answer your question, I applied in the early seventies, if you met the requirements for carrying $5000 per day, and you were the one, who made the night deposits and carried the cash, (credit cards were just starting to get popular), and in my business I carried and needed to prove that I carried a minum or $5000 per deposit with a letter from the Bank Manager, along with my accountant. Plus tax records and a series of identy docs, It was pretty common for retail merchants, to be able to get a ccw,especially if you had to pick up and drop off at odd hours like late at night and weekends. Now I heard that the money factor has been raised to $50,000, in cash, which would make it very rare, due to the credit cards, and checks, that retailers now take in. The year before I got mine, you were still able to go to central booking, the 112 Queens and get it done from there. Once you had it you had it. I left in the mid nintys. Times have changed.

 

[Caliban]

thanks for the reply. yeah the standards have definitely changed, it's nearly impossible now. the new requirement for ccw is that you have to prove that your life is in constant danger, which means that even if you regularly carry huge sums of cash, they might still deny you. i've heard reports of people who make large night deposits getting denied, just because they've never actually been targeted by anybody. it seems you're only allowed to ccw after it's too late!

the one exception is celebrities. donald trump, howard stern, robert deniro, all have current nyc ccw. like people who travel with bodyguards are the ones who need the guns! ridiculous.

 

[zminer]

I finally got the license today, three and a half weeks after my court date. But I'm excited that the process is complete (well, except for the unspecified time before the paperwork is processed so that I can officially add my first pistol to the license). It's actually beginning to sound like I got off easy - everybody I've talked to in the gun shops says that it's been typical to experience a delay of 6-12 months in Albany County. To get a 3 month turnaround time is almost unheard of.

Speaking of things going badly ... GlockGirl4, I can't believe they've called you for three interviews! Who has been summoning you, and what the heck have they been asking?

As for what to say, it's too late for today, but I recommend just being as honest as you can. Obviously you can pass a background check if you're attempting to get a firearm, so there's nothing wrong with you that should keep you from getting one. Just answer questions politely and concisely, and it's hard for things to go wrong.

 

[RDak]

Good going zminer!!

 

[SCKimberFan]

i also said that i have seen rabid animals and always saw
the need to have some protection for that, while not trying
to sound like some kind of game warden with a job to do
(if you know what i mean)

most counties dont want to hear anything about self defense
so i would not bring that up at all, if you can avoid it

Doesn't your 1st statement contradict the 2nd? It is self defense from 'rabid animals'.

 

[wnycollector]

I reside in niagara county, and for all intents and purposes it is "shall issue" here. the average time from dropping off your application to getting your unrestricted permit is less than 2 months

 

[wnycollector]

i am going for my 3rd interview today. this time it is with the judge.

I have NEVER heard about judge interviews in niagara county before! My wife and I both got out permits a few years ago...and she only did a phone interview w/ a NFPD detective!!!

 

[GlockGirl4]

i met with the judge clerk in niagara county. lockport bldg. he approved me but restricted it to target shooting and obviously home protection. what a joke! i am a stay at home mom, what do they think i am gonna do!!! yet teenagers walk around with them at the local parks that i take my 2 yr old to play. its so aggervating.

 

[Blackbeard]

Is this a permit to purchase or to carry? How does a purchase permit restrict what you can do with it? What would you be able to do if he hadn't "restricted" your permit?

 

[GlockGirl4]

dont know other then i thought my county was going to be easy... what a joke. not easy at all. they must pick and choose who to make it easy for.. my 4 references... 3 were cops.. and like i said i am a stay at home mom of 4 daughters... yet i can only take it to the range and home. what a joke!

 

[GlockGirl4]

i applied for carry concealed permit.
cant purchase a handgun without a permit here in ny.

 

[Maelstrom]

I was rejected for my pistol permit when one of my three "character witnesses" didn't send in her letter.

The state kept my $165, of course. They never notified me either. One day, many months after putting in the paperwork, I called and was told I had been rejected.

I actually considered attempting a lawsuit to at least get my money back for "services not rendered" but figured that would be a lost cause.

 

[GlockGirl4]

that is a shame and you are right that would be a loss cause getting the money back. i am just frustrated when the bad-- can carry and legal -- cant. what a shame.

 

[yourang?]

sorry to hear that, maelstrom

the clerk i was dealing with in the permit office was very smart
to remind me to bug my letter writers to complete the task at hand
and i am glad i did

i found that one of my recommenders decided not to write and
if i hadnt checked, i would have had the same thing happen to me

so many road blocks!

dont know if you can "appeal" the process, but you could at least
go and talk to the clerk in the permit office....they know lots about
how to navigate the system

they really do try to help, in spite of how difficult the process is

 

[blackcash88]

If it's only a minor offense to carry if the permit doesn't say so, I'd carry anyway. It's not like you're going to get a felony or anything and if you need to use it for self-defense? I think that would be the least of my worries at that point.

 

[Maelstrom]

It's been about seven years now. But it did (sorta) work out in the end. Now I legal carry wherever I want without a permit.

All I have to do is fight with crackheads and get spit on every now and then.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

Yes, we can.

All these hoops make me glad the Utah process is so simple. It's a shame we have to get permits at all, but still, I feel for you guys who have to do this. I'll have to link to this thread when people grumbled about having to find a notary.

 

[bflobill_69]

I never even bothered with applying for a pistol permit when I lived in Western New York...
...looking back I really should have

Bflobill_69

 

[Rokyudai]

Black Beard,

In NYS, you can only purchase a handgun while in possession of a pistol permit. There is not a separate 'purchase permit'. Just wanted to clarify for ya.

I'm sorry Glockgirl that they have made you jump through hoops for that nonsense. I hope you do attempt to repeal the decision or see if some 3rd party/arbitration can be assembled. It just sounds like an organized ring of dults up there.

ETA: Just make sure (God forbid) should you ever have to defend yourself, that you staple a target to the bad guy's body before you call the cops....sheesh.

 

[ihatesnow]

Does anyone know If restrictions put on by Erie county on a pistol permit are only for that county?

 

[blackcash88]

ETA: Just make sure (God forbid) should you ever have to defend yourself, that you staple a target to the bad guy's body before you call the cops....sheesh.

Make sure the holes match up!

 

[Caliban]

In NYS, you can only purchase a handgun while in possession of a pistol permit. There is not a separate 'purchase permit'. Just wanted to clarify for ya.

that sounds nice. in nyc you need the license AND the purchase permit. and after you buy it, the cops get to inspect it!

§ 5-25 Handgun Purchase Authorizations. (a) The licensee may not obtain a handgun
without prior written authorization from the Division Head, License Division. This
authorization shall be provided in the nature of a "Handgun Purchase Authorization"
form.

...

(6) Once the licensee has purchased the handgun, s/he shall return to the
License Division -- Room 152, One Police Plaza, New York, New York 10038, within 72
hours to have the handgun and safety locking device inspected. The handgun may not be
utilized before it has been inspected by License Division personnel and entered on the
license.