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Heart stent & shooting rifles/shotguns??

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Shooter357, Jul 7, 2006.

  1. Shooter357

    Shooter357 New Member

    Jan 31, 2004
    I recently had a stent in my right coronary artery & I'm doing great. I had my follow-up yesterday and asked the cardiologist if the shock from shooting high powered rifles or shotguns would be a problem... He said to definately avoid it for 90 more days, then added that no one had ever asked him about that before... He seemed to be concerned, but didn't say I couldn't do it - just that we'll see in 90 days....I suppose his concern is with the recoil or shock experienced when shooting round after round and the potential for stent problems....
    Has anyone here had a heart stent and returned to shooting rifles/shotguns? Any problems?
  2. Bob R

    Bob R Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    The Dry Side of WA
    I have a feeling the doc was just covering his behind. I don't blame him, but, if he had never been asked the question before, does he really know the answer?

    You should have gotten a card with the maker of the stent on it. Call them and ask what they think. If they "don't know", press them to find out. It is their product and they should be able to answer the question.

    Congrats on avoiding the bypass, and for doing better.

    Now you just have to do everthing the doc told you to.

  3. Roadkill

    Roadkill Senior Member

    Jun 23, 2003
    Try it, if it does you in just have someone let is know so we won't do it. Years back I had a ruptured disc removed. Couldn't wait to go shootn. Fired a SMLE cut down carbine in .308 five times. That set me back a month in recovery. Glad to hear you are doing ok. I definitely shoot low cal for a while.

  4. ARGarrison

    ARGarrison Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Indiana, USA
    Don't know about shooting, but when my Dad got his stent he wasn't to much of anything for a month. His card he got stated NO MRIs for 6 monthes. I'm guessing that is the length of time for them to set.
  5. Shooter357

    Shooter357 New Member

    Jan 31, 2004
    Thanks for the great replies...Try it and see...Hmmm... I think I'll pass on that one.... Lo-cal rimfires sound good to me, as I have several... I'll take the advice of Bob R and call the manufacturer....after all, I don't want any FTB
    (failure to beat) problems...
  6. BusMaster007

    BusMaster007 Member

    Dec 31, 2002
    Upper Left Coast
    Take it easy on yourself, for sure. Play it safe.:)
    This thread may be pertinent to a lot of people, so it may arise from time to time.
    Good Luck ( to all of us! )
  7. Steel Talon

    Steel Talon Member

    Mar 20, 2006
    Cochise County AZ
    It takes 6 months for the the body to place a covering on the stent further keeping it in place.

    Steel Talon:cool:
  8. bigger jon

    bigger jon Member

    May 22, 2006
    pinon hills ca
    Me too

    A year ago last may i had a stent put in my hart, almost had to have the bipass:eek:
    Any way i shoot almost everyday mostly pistol but at least once a week i pull out the 45/70 with full loads:D havent had any problems,,,
    Now as for the recovery and the pills they gave me, i gaind 50 pounds in 4 months, i have a broken back and cant work out the way i use to so that didnt help. Best of luck to you Big Jon
  9. Car Knocker

    Car Knocker Senior Member

    Dec 28, 2002
    Salt Lake City, UT
    No problems with my stent.
  10. dmftoy1

    dmftoy1 Senior Member

    Nov 17, 2003
    Lexington, IL
    My next door neighbor had a heart attack about 2 1/2 months ago and they put in a stint. He was told the same thing. (along with keeping his heart rate down, etc). He was out shooting his rifle for the first time last weekend.


    Have a good one,
  11. Dale Taylor

    Dale Taylor Member

    Feb 7, 2004
    My cardiologist brother has a stent and shoots pistol and 30-06 BAR. I don't know how long he waited. daleltaylor@att.net
  12. Glockman17366

    Glockman17366 Senior Member

    Dec 11, 2005
    South Central Pennsylvania
    Personally, I'd go with the Doctor's advice...or get a second opinion from another doctor.

    We're all great guys at THR, but no non-medical responder is qualified to answer your question.

    If you've got to shoot..maybe stick with .22's for a couple months?
  13. ribbonstone

    ribbonstone Member

    Jan 26, 2006
    New Orleans
    Only time I've seen first-hand or shot a "hooked" stock was when a Radiologist had a by-pass. Man loved to upland game hunt, and wasn't going to miss a second season.

    Hooked stock looks odd. Picture a O/U shotgun stock that ends at the pistol grip...has an extention that goes down UNDER your shoulder and Hooks around to your BACK. Big padded section on the hook. You hook it under your shoulder, with it pressing on the back of your shoulder, and push the gun FORWARD. Leaves a large space between your shoulder and the gun. When the 20ga. recoiled, nothing touched his shoulder at all.

    OF course, it leaves your face hanging in the air with nothing to cheek, and that takes a lot of getting use to...but for him (and I tried it myself) it worked.
  14. LoneCoon

    LoneCoon Member

    Apr 24, 2006
    I would definetly contact the manufacture and see if they have any information, not only for shooting, which they may not have, but for more shoulder stress related issues, such as light lifting.

    It also depends on they type of stent they put in. One that one of my co-workers had put in had razor edges to facilitate keeping the artery open. I don't know if that would make much of a difference, but I wouldn't go shooting any portible howizters for at least 4-6 months.
  15. ilbob

    ilbob Senior Member

    Jun 14, 2006
    VP Cheney has a stent and we all know he was hunting not long ago. I would imagine his doctors know womething about the effects of recoil on stents and felt it was an acceptable risk to let him hunt.
  16. Father Knows Best

    Father Knows Best Senior Member

    Apr 14, 2005
    Minneapolis, MN, USA
    BobR said:
    I disagree. I'm in the industry. I used to work for one of the biggest makers of stents and other cardiology, EP and cardiac surgery products, and recently switched jobs to one of its competitors. I can tell you that no one knows what the effects of shooting on recent stent recipients are. The only way to know would be to do a clinical study comparing shooters to non-shooters. Such a study has never been done, and probably will never be done. Anything anyone says about the effects of shooting on recent stent recipients would be pure speculation, so to be on the safe side, follow your doctor's advice and avoid it for a while.

    You can say that they "should be able to answer the question", but based on what? There are millions of things we don't know and can never know. The clinical studies that medical devices go through in order to get approved for use in the U.S. already take several years and cost millions and millions of dollars. It is impossible to design and conduct studies that account for and measure every possible variation in patient population and activity. All we can do is study the device safety and efficacy in fairly typical patients, and let medical professionals use their experience and logic to made educated guesses about how those devices might function under other conditions. Most professionals will err on the side of caution when faced with an unknown risk, and that's not a bad idea when the potential consequences are dire.
  17. aryfrosty

    aryfrosty Member

    Nov 25, 2003
    Concord, New Hampshire
    Heart stents and shooting.

    :) I have no stents yet, but my concern is my coumadin intake and bruising. My Doc, who IS a shooter, told me to buy a "Kick-Killer" recoil pad to keep the shock to a minimum and then shoot away! He also told me that he has patients who are hunters who have had a pacemaker installed. One of his pre-installation questions about those is; "what shoulder do you fire from?"
    He puts pacers on the opposite side from the shooting shoulder and firmly says they will have no problems. I know a stent is no more than a little "Chinese handcuff" type apparatus which is expanded to keep an artery open. And it's sort of in the center of the chest. Again, I'm not a doc of any kind...Just wanted to share what I found out when I asked my doc. Regards.
  18. telomerase

    telomerase Senior Member

    Mar 11, 2003
    The bear-infested hills of Grafton NH
    Good luck on your recovery. You have a wonderful opportunity here:

    1. Humans evolved to live on a hunter-gatherer diet. It's great for the heart, hunter-gatherer tribes have average total cholesterol levels around 120. So now you have a really good reason to go hunting every single week! (Pick a few nuts, berries, and leaves while you're at it).

    2. Father Knows Best is totally right. No one is going to do a $100 million controlled study on "trap shooters with stents". So we don't know... maybe it's horribly dangerous to hit yourself with heavy recoil. Thus, it's essential that you acquire a whole battery of low-recoil varmint rifles, tricked-out 10/22s, etc.

    You're on to a whole new lifestyle :D
  19. sugarbritches

    sugarbritches New Member

    May 21, 2006

    If the second opinion is ok go and shoot, does that mean a third opinion. . Don't mess with success. My doctor told me when I got my stint that I was starting my second chance at life. DO what the doctor says, you have a lot of time ahead of you. Four years now and still going strong here; knock on wood.
  20. surfinUSA

    surfinUSA Member

    Apr 24, 2003
    By the ocean
    I had a heart attack 2 years ago. They put 2 stents in me and I'm doing fine. In fact I spent the last weekend shooting skeet.

    Exercise and take your meds. You'll be glad you did. Good luck on your recovery. I'm not a doctor but I think eating red meat will be worse for you than shooting will. Either way take the advice of your cardiologist thats what you pay him for.

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