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Help pax find a new primary sig!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by pax, Dec 25, 2002.

  1. pax

    pax Well-Known Member

    Hey all,

    Fresh board, fresh start.

    For years, my primary sig has been
    It's still a good sig quote, especially since everyone who knows me personally will tell you that this quote pretty well sums up my whole outlook on life: I don't like to be coddled, condescended to, or treated like a child. :)

    Problem is, it's getting old. I've kept it so long, only because I have such fun rotating new sigs into its place that I don't have to stare at it too often. And I'll continue to do that, even after I get a new one.

    Here's the deal though. I really need a new primary sig!

    I've rummaged through my quotes file (389 pages and growing) and haven't found anything I dearly love. Got lots of cool quotes, but nothing that's perfect.

    So ... anyone got the perfect, firearms-related sig for me?

    1) It's got to be a quote. (Not just a cute saying.)

    2) It's got to be a real quote. (You don't have to verify accuracy, but if it sounds bogus, it probably is.)

    3) It's got to be a real, firearms-related quote. (PM me if you find others that are non firearms related -- I really love adding to the file.)

    4) It's got to be ... ME. If the quote doesn't fit me, I won't be happy with it for long.

    Ready? GO!


    When a thing has been said and said well, have no scruples. Take it and copy it. -- Mark Twain
  2. PATH

    PATH Well-Known Member

    That is a pretty tall order and will take some time. The SIg you have is pretty hard to beat!
  3. Blackhawk

    Blackhawk Member In Memoriam


    You're welcome to use mine. :D
  4. bastiat

    bastiat Well-Known Member

    Well, this one fits my personal philosophy:

    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

    Thomas Jefferson to Archibald Stuart, 1791

    Freedomsnest.com has a great library of quotes, but their web site is down right now.
  5. Calamity Jane

    Calamity Jane Well-Known Member

    Pax, I don't have a suggestion for a specific quote, but I can give you more quotes to rummage through. :D Following is the Mother of All Freedom-Oriented Quote Lists, or something close to it:


    There are 1038 quotes there - maybe one's just right for you!
  6. citizen

    citizen Well-Known Member

    Oh. One of THOSE questions....

    Like "which shoes should I get"?

    Guys, don't go there . Only SHE can make the right choice.;)

    Teasing aside, pax; good luck; and wear what feels comfortable to YOU.:D
  7. Schuey2002

    Schuey2002 Well-Known Member

    I've got to second the words of Path.. Why change a good thing?:)
  8. Blackhawk

    Blackhawk Member In Memoriam

    Actually, pax, I liked your continually changing sig lines.

    Some posters have long essays that I never read. Some have classics that I read a few times then never "see" again because they become invisible due to their constant repetition.

    But in a recent thread you were heavily involved in, I noticed that the sigs kept changing, and I found myself compelled to keep right on reading after your post was signed off.

    Sigs aren't my style, but some do them very well while others just take up bandwidth....
  9. pax

    pax Well-Known Member


    I'm not surprised you like that one! It also fits my philosophy, for the most part. :)

    It's not quite 'it' for me, but it's close.

    Btw, I've always liked your user name, and the namesake you chose, too.
    Lots of Bastiat info available on the web, including his most useful little booklet, The Law. Find it at http://people.netscape.com/ccardiff/bastiat.html


    Thanks for the link. I think I've mined that one before, but need to read through it again.

    I like quotes pages, but get more excited about finding one "in the wild." If you know what I mean.


    Don't be like that! Look, these ones are adorable, don't you think? Or are the ones over there better? What do you mean, you're done shopping now? We only just got started! ;)


    Thanks for the kind words. I'll keep rotating new ones in, of course. I'm just looking for a new default sig, to use when I don't have time to hunt down an appropriate topical quote.


    More ideas, anyone? Please?


    He wrapped himself in quotations - as a beggar would enfold himself in the purple of Emperors. -- Rudyard Kipling
    Last edited: Dec 25, 2002
  10. 2nd Amendment

    2nd Amendment member

    I'd love to change quotes regularly but who has the time? it's a pain. It's a shame, too, that the quotes in previous posts change with the newest post. Would be interesting to follow someones sig line path over time.
  11. pax

    pax Well-Known Member


    My default sig is the one the board has. But I don't usually use it; usually I just paste a final quote into the body of the message. Done that way, it doesn't change old posts when the user settings are changed.


    She had a pretty gift for quotation, which is a serviceable substitute for wit. -- W. Somerset Maugham
  12. Blackhawk

    Blackhawk Member In Memoriam

    See what I mean? That's perfect and perfectly appropriate! I'm still laughing! :D
  13. 2nd Amendment

    2nd Amendment member

    I was noticing elsewhere that the quotes stayed the same even as newer ones came up. Took it a minute to sink in what was going on. Too much eggnog or something, I suppose. :D That or I'm just dumb, which is always a distinct possibility.
  14. Blackhawk

    Blackhawk Member In Memoriam

    Hey pax, here's one you might be able to use sometime:

    Nowhere before did ever meet,
    Sweetness so sad, sadness so sweet.,

    It's by John Updike in his novel Rabbit Run. I know John Updike is the author, but I'm not positive about the book. I read that about 40 years ago in college and was really taken by it in the context of the book. I figured he was quoting somebody, so I spent a bunch of time tracking it down -- to him!

    Anyway, it's been my favorite couplet all this time, and I've never found an appropriate use for it. Meanwhile, that side of my brain has atrophied so I doubt I'll ever be able to give it a good home like I'm sure you can. :)
  15. El Tejon

    El Tejon Well-Known Member

    El Tejon blurry with wine and on a protein high from excess turkey:

    "Arguments of policy must give way to constitutional command." Payton v. New York, 445 U.S. 573, 602 (1980).

    "The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered the palladium of the liberties of a republic." 2 JOSEPH STORY, COMMENTARIES ON THE CONSTITUTION 620 (Boston, Little, Brown & Co. 1873) (first published in 1833).

    "t is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them . . ." ROBERT LEE, ADDITIONAL LETTERS FROM THE FEDERAL FARMER 170 (New York, T. Greenleaf 1788).

    "Tyrants have never placed any confidence on a militia composed of freemen." THE ANTIFEDERALIST PAPERS 75 (Morton Borden ed., 1965).

    "There were no blacksmiths in Israel because the Philistines were determined to keep the Hebrews from making swords and spears." 1 Samuel 13:19-22 (Good News).

    "For myself it would be most irksome to be ruled by a bevy of Platonic Guardians, even if I knew how to choose them, which I assuredly do not." LEARNED HAND, THE BILL OF RIGHTS 73 (1958).

    "[A]n armed republic submits less easily to the rule of one of its citizens than a republic armed by foreign forces. Rome and Sparta were for many centuries well armed and free. The Swiss are well armed and enjoy great freedom." NICCOLO MACHIAVELLI, THE PRINCE 73 (Leslie J. Walker trans., 1970).

    "[T]he rigorous equation of arms-bearing with civic capacity is on of Machiavelli's most enduring legacies to later political thinkers." JOHN POCOCK, THE POLITICAL WORKS OF JAMES HARRINGTON 18-19 (1977).

    "Swords were given to men, tht none might be Slaves, but such as know not how to use them." ALGERNON SIDNEY, DISCOURSES CONCERNING GOVERNMENT 134 (London, J. Toland 1698).

    "The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the state, is absolute." Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394, 402 (1859).

    "Nor can Congress deny to the people the right to keep and bear arms, nor the right to trial by jury, nor compel anyone to be a witness against himself in a criminal proceeding." Dred Scott v. Sanford, 60 U.S. (19 How.) 393, 450 (1857).

    "I find in the Constitution an article which declared 'the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.' For myself, I shall insist that the reconstructed rebels of Mississippi respect the Constitution in their local laws." Representative Clarke of Kansas, CONG. GLOBE, 39th Cong., 1st Sess., 1838 (1866).

    Just a start. HTH.:)
  16. sm

    sm member


    I have to agree along the lines of Blackhawk.

    Not only do you express yourself well, but your quotes supports, re-enforces,or reflects your posts.

    I myself look forward to your quotes--honestly--been known to read quote, then your post.

    To me - this is your sig.
  17. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    Are sig lines going to be like shoes. One pair today, another tomorrow? Whatever you choose, I'm sure it'll be in good taste. After all, real women care for themselves, grown up girls can't.
  18. Blackhawk

    Blackhawk Member In Memoriam

    This is a great thread! It's turned out to be a "We love you, pax!" thread. :D
  19. sm

    sm member

    BH, where's the "hug smilie" :D

    c'mon pax, we need some more quotes.
  20. pax

    pax Well-Known Member


    It wasn't spozed to ... I mean, I'm glad it did and all ... but, um. :eek:


    Okay, at your service! :) Here's a couple from Frederic Bastiat. I'd urge folks to run a search on his name and read some of his works -- most available online at no charge.
    Here are some from Milton Mayer, whom I hadn't read before Dadman told us all about him in the L&P forum, on a thread titled "Be Concerned."
    And here is a mixed bag of commentaries on gov't:
    And finally, one about the RKBA, which I picked up at the link CJ posted above. Thanks, CJ. :)
    More quotes, people? Don't be shy...


    I no doubt deserved my enemies, but I don't believe I deserved my friends. -- Walt Whitman

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