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Herters Powder 101

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by steve15790, Jun 20, 2008.

  1. steve15790

    steve15790 New Member

    hello i need reloading info using the old herters powder - hp 101

    for 308 winchester using 150 and 165 grain bullets

    thanks steve
  2. ftierson

    ftierson Member.

    Herter's Perfect Rifle Powder 101 was made for Herter's by Nobel in Scotland and used Methyl Centralite as the deterrent coating, which lowered the burn temperature of the powder and prolonged bore life.

    I used a lot of the Herter's 101 and 102 power (especially 102) back in the seventies.

    Herter's 102 had a burning rate close to IMR3031, and Herter's 101 has a burning rate close to IMR4320.

    I've long since burned up all of my Herter's 102 (mostly in 5.56x45mm), but I still have a couple of cases of Herter's 101 squirreled away.

    Herter's published a pamphlet of loading data for 100, 101, 102 and 103 rifle powders, and the following data are from this pamphlet copyrighted 1966:

    For .308 Winchester (no data were provided on components or barrel length):

    No data provided for 165gr bullets...

    For 150 grain bullets:

    Maximum Grain: 46.0
    Velocity: 2800fps

    Moderate Grain: 43.5
    Velocity: 2680fps

    Suggested Grain: 41.0
    Velocity: 2550fps

    Herter's 101 is a great powder. Have fun shooting yours up...



    WARNING: Loading data provided for informational purposes only.

    As with all handloading, start low and work up...

  3. Clark

    Clark Well-Known Member

    I got some pounds of Herters 164.
    Someone said it is Nobel 64.
    I can't find any data for that either.
    I just had to work up some loads and see what it was [kind of like Unique]
  4. ftierson

    ftierson Member.

    Herter's 164 was their magnum shotshell powder, designed for the heaviest magnum shotshell loads...

    I'll dig around and see if I have any info on it...

  5. 257WSM

    257WSM New Member

    Herters 102 load data

    If anyone has a copy of the old Herters loading pamphlet, I'd greatly appreciate any data available for Herters 102 in either .308 Win or .223 Rem.
  6. Stonewall2

    Stonewall2 New Member

    I have a Herters ( revised 4th edition 1976) reloading manual.

    I still need to set up my new printer but I can take a photo .

  7. 257WSM

    257WSM New Member

    That would be great. I you can either post a photo of the page here or I'll send you my email address.
    Thank you,
  8. avan47

    avan47 Well-Known Member

    Herter's 308 data

    Here is the data for 308.

    My first attempt at posting with a pdf attachment. Hope it works.

    Attached Files:

    Last edited: Apr 25, 2012
  9. avan47

    avan47 Well-Known Member

    Herter's 308 data page 2

    This data is from Professional Loading Rifle, Pistol and Shotgun Cartridges and Reloading Data Including Pressures and Velocities for Gun and Ammunition Manufacturers Professional and Amateur Target Shooters, Game Hunters and Guides by George Leonard Herter, copyright 1970.

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  10. avan47

    avan47 Well-Known Member

    223 data

    Here is Herter's 223 data pg 1. I guess he wasn't a big fan of the M16.

    Attached Files:

  11. avan47

    avan47 Well-Known Member

    223 data page 2

    Here is page 2. Same sorce as 308 data. I am not going to type the title of that book again. George was a character. His books are quite interesting.

    ps: Scroll down the attachment page. The data is there.

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  12. 257WSM

    257WSM New Member

    Outstanding - Thank you very much! I love the smell of powder burning in the morning....even antique powder!
  13. big dipsy

    big dipsy New Member

    hi this is big dipsy i'm looking for a load for my ruger m77 mark ll target 223 with Herter's 101 & 102 i found your post & was loading it up at 24 gr. & seen 223 Remington Magnum on the header ! i have no listing of a 223 Magnum would that be the 5.56 nato ? i'm new to the 223 just got it ! if you could help me out i'd be grateful thank you !

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