Hi-point 995TS vs 995 "classic"

[wnycollector]

I have decided to pick up a hipoint 995. Now it's time to decide which one...the new TS model or the original model. The preice difference between the two is ~$60 ($200 vs 260). Any input would be appreciated.

 

[lipadj46]

Get the new stock that way you won't feel the urge to upgrade later.

 

[chris in va]

I don't have any issues whatsoever with the 'old' style stock. I find the grip to be very ergonomic actually.

 

[lipadj46]

I don't have any issues whatsoever with the 'old' style stock. I find the grip to be very ergonomic actually.

Well I believe you may be in the minority there. I had a Hipoint 995 and the stock was too squishy for me. The ATI stock was a big improvement. I've seen pics of the new stock I've never actually felt one to see if is stiffer than the old gladware model though $60 extra seems reasonable.

 

[dispatch55126]

Well I believe you may be in the minority there. I had a Hipoint 995 and the stock was too squishy for me.

The stock is meant to be "squishy" as the stock is designed to absorb the recoil and hammering of the action. Being a blowback design, the energy has to go somewhere and the stock will flex slightly in the wrist. The ATI stock prevents this so all of the recoil is absorbed by the two receiver screws. If you have an ATI stock, look at the two bolts after firing several hundred rounds through it and you'll see that they are starting to bend.

 

[jonnyc]

I'd still get the cheaper 995 and an ATI stock. Just had mine out this morning, love it!

 

[Animal Mother]

I'd spend an extra $60 for the new stock model. IMO, the old stock was just ugly on a level exceeded only by a few other makes (think WWII Japanese machineguns).

I've been waiting for the 995TS to come out, I will be buying one.

 

[lipadj46]

The ATI stock prevents this so all of the recoil is absorbed by the two receiver screws. If you have an ATI stock, look at the two bolts after firing several hundred rounds through it and you'll see that they are starting to bend.

I like it, squishy stock is part of the recoil design. My ATI stock came with a buffer and I made a new one from slightly thicker O'ring material. I never noticed the receiver bolts bending on mine.

 

[indie]

you can get the 995ts much cheaper if you have your ffl order from southernohiogun.com

they have em for 199.95 + actual ups shipping to ffl

i was gonna get one, but i decided i want to get a saiga while i can if i can scrape up enough money.

 

[giggitygiggity]

Does anyone have pics of this new model? I could not find any on Hi Point's web site.

 

[wnycollector]

Indie, thanks for the SOG info! I will save ~$20 going that route...just enough for a 100 round box of WWB at wallymart

 

[lipadj46]

Does anyone have pics of this new model? I could not find any on Hi Point's web site.

I bet if you search over at the hipoint forums you will find it. Or google, it has been posted here too.

 

[LemmyCaution]

Does anyone have pics of this new model? I could not find any on Hi Point's web site.

 

[dwnthehatch]

995ts

I sold my "classic" about a week ago. I picked up My 995 TS today. It feels much sturdier than the "classic". The stock has a recoil reducing spring dampened butt stock. A big plus is that it also has the last round bolt open feature now. I got mine from SOG for $199 + shipping, the classic is $149 + shipping, mags are $12.95 + shipping.

 

[lipadj46]

Anyone who argues that is not an improvement and still buys the classic is nuts. It's still an ugly little plastic thing but it looks better IMO.

 

[sohcgt2]

The stock has a recoil reducing spring dampened butt stock.

Is this an issue w/9mm handgun ammo? Did someone complain recoil was uncontrollable?

 

[lipadj46]

Yeah it's a real shoulder buster

 

[dispatch55126]

I sold my 995 to finance an AR project but would definitely buy another 995 with this new stock. Are they still as accurate as they've always been?

 

[conw]

As the above poster hinted, it might be a good idea to wait a year or so for the beta test period to be over...firearms are precision instruments, make a little change to a proven design and it isn't proven any more. Does look cool though.

 

[Georgia Gunner]

Man I hope they make some hi-cap magazines soon!

 

[MAX100]

To take double stack mags, like the Glock mags, all that would need to be done is redesign the polymer pistol grip to accept them.

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[conw]

I never did figure out why they used single stack...

 

[cane]

At one time there was a person in Ohio who would take the triggerguard/magazine well from the Marlin "Camp Carbines" and modify them to fit just about any pistol magazine you wanted. I had a 9mm converted to take Glock magazines. This idea might be a "cottage industry" for someone.

 

[lipadj46]

People already have done that to varying degrees of success. Either soldering 2 mags together or soldering a single stack to a double stack. All kinds of mods (good and pointless) for that silly little rifle. At a certain point you might as well step up to an AR.

 

[MAX100]

At a certain point you might as well step up to an AR.

Many own a AR15 & Hi-Point carbine. An AR is not a HP carbine.


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